South west gull
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All these grounds with safe standing the atmosphere is 1000 % better.we need it at the amex for next season no doubt
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[Football] Safe standing
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nwgull
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Bit too late for next season as 90-95% season tickets will have already been sold. I agree though as it should naturally bring the fans most inclined to sing and get the atmosphere going together. The club were certainly open to the idea when it first became a possibility but there didn't seem to be much engagement from the fans at the time.
Neville's Breakfast
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With safe standing you still have a designated seat. It doesn’t move your position in the ground at all.
It's like standing with an RSJ in front of you and another behind.
It's like sex, using a sheep's bladder as a condom.
It's like.....
GT49er
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......and it doesn't increase the ground capacity - and it will cost money to put in - and it might attract fans here for the football, not for the customer match-day experience ......... has anybody emailed PB for his opinion?
In the away end it's legally allowing what has happened since away ends went all seater.
Huh. Would have thought someone would have suggested it before...
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GT49er
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Would have thought that someone in management and/or authority would have recognised that by now! - or certainly should have!
Gay and inventive, indeed.
Nice bit of Cilla too.
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)Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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That video was brilliant - anyone else going to wear a tie and jacket to the next game....
nwgull
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I’m fully aware of that. This is doesn’t change the fact that a large number of STs for next season have already been sold as seats, so it’s not really possible to change an area of the ground to safe standing in the interim. I’m sure some fans would be fine with the designation of their ticket being changed from seat to standing, but I’m sure plenty wouldn’t.
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Peacehaven Wild Kids
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With all due respect to the Hillsborough victims the attraction to a young fan in the late 70s was the “unsafe” element, standing with our mates, where we liked, getting shoved about, losing a shoe etc (I always laugh at those videos claiming “limbs” in an all seated end, they clearly weren’t at the Blackpool match in 1978) I’ll always vote in favour of it for the benefit of the young uns but I’m in my fifties now, so for me, being told where to stand is a bit pointless and if I’m in front of a popped up seat at one point I’m gonna give in and “have a little sit down”
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Not convinced it will make the atmosphere much better given how much of the ground stands anyway but it's the safety element I'm interested in.
As an aside, safety has been used to justify the ticket sharing scheme !
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Neville's Breakfast
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Yes, I agree with that bit. I was replying to your comment along the lines of safe standing would enable like minded noisy fans to congregate together. That is no more the case than it is now.
Given time, most who didn’t want to stand and sing would mov3 to other areas of the ground, allowing more of those who do wish to do so to move in.
Neville's Breakfast
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Maybe. Why doesn’t that happen already though ? Fans in much of the North already stand and (sometimes) sing. Installing rails formalizes the arrangement but doesn’t really change anything. By the way I don’t have any axe to grind. I prefer to stand than sit at games. I prefer away games over home ones.
Marty___Mcfly
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- Sep 14, 2011
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Personally I think making the whole north stand safe standing would work fine. Anyone who wants to sit would just get a season ticket / match ticket in another stand. It undoubtedly would improve safety as most of the north already stand with no railings etc.
The away stand is an interesting one as almost all away fans stand for 90 mins but if you made that safe standing it would remove the theoretical choice for away fans to sit if they wish.
Making the north and south stand all safe standing could work well, but it’s pretty clear the club are not up for it and I’m not sure there is a groundswell of opinion from fans to drive any action to make the club change their minds.
I guess in reality most fans in the north and the away fans who want to stand up, do so already and it is facilitated by the stewards and therefore by the club who instruct them. So it all kind of works at the moment. The only downsides being the lack of safety measures (although I personally think standing in a seated stand is actually pretty safe as you can’t get a terrace ‘surge’), and the odd fan in these areas who does want to sit down being annoyed that their view is blocked.
The away stand is an interesting one as almost all away fans stand for 90 mins but if you made that safe standing it would remove the theoretical choice for away fans to sit if they wish.
Making the north and south stand all safe standing could work well, but it’s pretty clear the club are not up for it and I’m not sure there is a groundswell of opinion from fans to drive any action to make the club change their minds.
I guess in reality most fans in the north and the away fans who want to stand up, do so already and it is facilitated by the stewards and therefore by the club who instruct them. So it all kind of works at the moment. The only downsides being the lack of safety measures (although I personally think standing in a seated stand is actually pretty safe as you can’t get a terrace ‘surge’), and the odd fan in these areas who does want to sit down being annoyed that their view is blocked.