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[Football] Bielsa on his way? (Update, left Leeds "by mutual consent")







Eeyore

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Hope not.
 


Swansman

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The magical solution to every problem... sack the manager. The blokes on the pitch has no impact on the outcome of football games.
 








Swansman

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Have you seen Leeds?

Bielsa’s tactics are not helping.

They've had their best defender (Cooper) out for three months, best midfielder (Phillips) has missed 13 games and best striker (Bamford) also 13 games... I think they are exactly where you could expect them to be in the league table. Until some of those are back, I dont see Leeds winning many games regardless of manager.
 


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They've had their best defender (Cooper) out for three months, best midfielder (Phillips) has missed 13 games and best striker (Bamford) also 13 games... I think they are exactly where you could expect them to be in the league table. Until some of those are back, I dont see Leeds winning many games regardless of manager.

I don’t agree.

All clubs have injuries. Cooper is bang ordinary, and it wasn’t like defending wasn’t issue last season.

Phillips is a great player though, but it isn’t like all clubs don’t have injuries. The manager needs to adapt, for me Bielsa is a one trick pony who has been worked out…… Surely, if he was ‘that’ good, he would have been able to flex and adjust….

Arguably, Brighton have inferior players against a number of teams, it’s just we have a coach who can adjust, and multiple times if necessary…..
 


1066familyman

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Fake news from the OP.

Since when did the Champions, Champions of Europe, become the World Champions???
 




BN41Albion

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They've had their best defender (Cooper) out for three months, best midfielder (Phillips) has missed 13 games and best striker (Bamford) also 13 games... I think they are exactly where you could expect them to be in the league table. Until some of those are back, I dont see Leeds winning many games regardless of manager.

They've conceded 20 - 20! - goals in 5 games. Bielsa's tsctics are a joke given their current circumstances
 


Clive Walker

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The magical solution to every problem... sack the manager. The blokes on the pitch has no impact on the outcome of football games.

He is literally the only problem. He’s setting his team up in one way and that way isn’t working and he refuses to change.

Totally justifiable sacking.
 


Easy 10

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They've had their best defender (Cooper) out for three months, best midfielder (Phillips) has missed 13 games and best striker (Bamford) also 13 games... I think they are exactly where you could expect them to be in the league table. Until some of those are back, I dont see Leeds winning many games regardless of manager.

Look. They're getting smashed every week. They simply don't adapt. And its Bielsa's CHOICE to work with a small squad, hence there's no strength in depth when they lose key players (which happens to EVERY club).

He's left Leeds ill-equipped to deal with injuries, and he has stubbornly stuck to his man-marking tactics which routinely gets pulled apart. A good manager is a pragmatic one who can adapt. That is clearly not Bielsa. He's a spent force, he'll be gone at the end of the season, so they're better off getting rid now and bringing someone in who ca shore them up. Because if they stick with this bloke, they could easily go down. Easily.
 




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Fake news from the OP.

Since when did the Champions, Champions of Europe, become the World Champions???

Ah, but remember they’re moral world champions for being the biggest club in the world.
 


1066familyman

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Ah, but remember they’re moral world champions for being the biggest club in the world.

Possibly, although Massive might have something to say about that :wink:
 


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They've had their best defender (Cooper) out for three months, best midfielder (Phillips) has missed 13 games and best striker (Bamford) also 13 games... I think they are exactly where you could expect them to be in the league table. Until some of those are back, I dont see Leeds winning many games regardless of manager.

But tactically they’re naive. Anyone who’s anyone doesn’t understand why they are marking man for man, players getting pulled out of position left / right / centre. Bielsa never changes formation dependent on the opposition.

Bielsa spent years chasing Dan James and massively overpaid. He also allegedly veto’d any signings in the summer and in January, so he has a small squad because that’s what he wants and has always worked with.

So much of this is at Bielsa door and not just because a couple of average / above average players are now out
 


Swansman

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I don’t agree.

All clubs have injuries. Cooper is bang ordinary, and it wasn’t like defending wasn’t issue last season.

Phillips is a great player though, but it isn’t like all clubs don’t have injuries. The manager needs to adapt, for me Bielsa is a one trick pony who has been worked out…… Surely, if he was ‘that’ good, he would have been able to flex and adjust….

Arguably, Brighton have inferior players against a number of teams, it’s just we have a coach who can adjust, and multiple times if necessary…..

Managers come and go... games are won or lost... but at the end of the day somewhere around 15 PL teams are going to end up within three places from their place in the wage league. Only Brentford spend less on wages than Leeds. Brighton spend 15th most on wages... and I wouldnt be surprised to see the team end up within three positions from that.

The impact from managers is quite overrated. Quality on the pitch is what matters.
 


Pavilionaire

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Bielsa has to be sacked because of his gung ho tactics and his inability to build a big and decent enough squad. Why didn't they sign Weghorst, instead of Burnley? He's the sort of attainable striker they are crying out for.
 


Neville's Breakfast

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Managers come and go... games are won or lost... but at the end of the day somewhere around 15 PL teams are going to end up within three places from their place in the wage league. Only Brentford spend less on wages than Leeds. Brighton spend 15th most on wages... and I wouldnt be surprised to see the team end up within three positions from that.

The impact from managers is quite overrated. Quality on the pitch is what matters.

In that case we should get rid of Potter and get in someone cheaper
 






Easy 10

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Managers come and go... games are won or lost... but at the end of the day somewhere around 15 PL teams are going to end up within three places from their place in the wage league. Only Brentford spend less on wages than Leeds. Brighton spend 15th most on wages... and I wouldnt be surprised to see the team end up within three positions from that.

The impact from managers is quite overrated. Quality on the pitch is what matters.

I can only assume you haven't actually watched Leeds this season. Or lately.

Going gung-ho every game might give the media a hard-on. But they have now conceded 60 (SIXTY) goals, in 26 games. Given that, I don't see how you cannot question how the manager is setting up that team.

He has failed to recruit. And he has failed to adapt. Thats on him.
 


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