[Albion] Brighton fan convicted + banned after Euro 2021 Racism tweet

Springal · Feb 4, 2022

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-charged-racist-message-euro2020-26139198

Good to see the club take action and lifetime ban him from the Amex as part of the part of the punishment.

super-seagulls · Feb 4, 2022

What an idiot. Has got what he deserves, a lifetime ban from The Amex.
I wonder what possessed him to post such vile.
PPF will be proud.

Weststander · Feb 4, 2022

Another thicko ensnared. The Euro's penalties loss acted as flypaper.

A1X · Feb 4, 2022

Good riddance, serves him right. Some need to realise actions have consequences the hard way.

arewethereyet? · Feb 4, 2022

An indefinite ban as has been published on the club’s website BUT he should get a lifetime ban, it’s the only viable deterrent IMO, the fine could have been a bit heftier as well.

super-seagulls · Feb 4, 2022

arewethereyet? said:
An indefinite ban as has been published on the club’s website BUT he should get a lifetime ban, it’s the only viable deterrent IMO, the fine could have been a bit heftier as well.

What’s the difference between indefinite and lifetime?

Weststander · Feb 4, 2022

super-seagulls said:
What’s the difference between indefinite and lifetime?

Indefinite ends when the club say so.

Eeyore · Feb 4, 2022

arewethereyet? said:
An indefinite ban as has been published on the club’s website BUT he should get a lifetime ban, it’s the only viable deterrent IMO, the fine could have been a bit heftier as well.

I agree with the ban, and I'm really happy that racism is being called out. It's nice to see toxicity being removed. It's a reflection of values.

I don't agree with a lifetime ban, because that is to give no pathway and reward for change. That's a society of absolutes and moral perching. You change people to change society, and that should be reflected by re-integration. People do bad stuff, but people change too. All have sinned.

Happy to celebrate warm and reflective values and standards, not happy to be swept up in self righteous moral crusades, as is often the outcome of these happenings.

He did something dumb that he probably regrets. He paid a heavy price. Now it's time to try and make it good.

Goldstone1976 · Feb 4, 2022

Brighton Lines said:
I agree with the ban, and I'm really happy that racism is being called out. It's nice to see toxicity being removed. It's a reflection of values.

I don't agree with a lifetime ban, because that is to give no pathway and reward for change. That's a society of absolutes and moral perching. You change people to change society, and that should be reflected by re-integration. People do bad stuff, but people change too. All have sinned.

Happy to celebrate warm and reflective values and standards, not happy to be swept up in self righteous moral crusades, as is often the outcome of these happenings.

He did something dumb that he probably regrets. He paid a heavy price. Now it's time to try and make it good.

I’ve not seen the tweet, but let’s assume it was really pretty bad (I guess it was to result in a reasonably hefty fine). How long do you think his ban should be, assuming no repeat?

Dick Head · Feb 4, 2022

Weststander said:
Indefinite ends when the club say so.

Which could mean that they will give him a chance to turn over a new leaf and make amends. It could happen. What are the chances?

portslade seagull · Feb 4, 2022

No excuses, racism should be called out along with other prejudices that are directed at us by opposing fans

ConfusedGloryHunter · Feb 4, 2022

I wonder how they will be able to judge if his ban should be rescinded? I mean is there some sort of "are you still a C***?" exam he could take in a few years time to be able to tell if he has become an acceptable member of society?

If such a thing exists surely it should be rolled out across the nation so we could easily identify the rest and deal with them accordingly?

Weststander · Feb 4, 2022

Dick Head said:
Which could mean that they will give him a chance to turn over a new leaf and make amends. It could happen. What are the chances?

Should've been sent on a re-education course and made to attend.

WATFORD zero · Feb 4, 2022

ConfusedGloryHunter said:
I wonder how they will be able to judge if his ban should be rescinded? I mean is there some sort of "are you still a C***?" exam he could take in a few years time to be able to tell if he has become an acceptable member of society?

If such a thing exists surely it should be rolled out across the nation so we could easily identify the rest and deal with them accordingly?

Or we could just stop electing them in the first place :wink:

WATFORD zero · Feb 4, 2022

Brighton Lines said:
I agree with the ban, and I'm really happy that racism is being called out. It's nice to see toxicity being removed. It's a reflection of values.

I don't agree with a lifetime ban, because that is to give no pathway and reward for change. That's a society of absolutes and moral perching. You change people to change society, and that should be reflected by re-integration. People do bad stuff, but people change too. All have sinned.

Happy to celebrate warm and reflective values and standards, not happy to be swept up in self righteous moral crusades, as is often the outcome of these happenings.

He did something dumb that he probably regrets. He paid a heavy price. Now it's time to try and make it good.

Maybe that is why the ban is indefinite and not lifetime. Possibly it's down to the offender to instigate and prove to the club that they have changed ?

nicko31 · Feb 4, 2022

Please don't come near our club again

Bozza · Feb 4, 2022

Brighton Lines said:
I agree with the ban, and I'm really happy that racism is being called out. It's nice to see toxicity being removed. It's a reflection of values.

I don't agree with a lifetime ban, because that is to give no pathway and reward for change. That's a society of absolutes and moral perching. You change people to change society, and that should be reflected by re-integration. People do bad stuff, but people change too. All have sinned.

It's an interesting and valid point.

On another forum I frequent, and nothing to do with football, one chap came out and posted that he used to be racist but had gone through reform with the help of his daughter and the BBC shot a brief interview with him about it, which is here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-58330286

Springal · Feb 4, 2022

The irony of course is no doubt he cheers on Lamptey, Bissouma etc when he was attending games !

dazzer6666 · Feb 4, 2022

Goldstone1976 said:
I’ve not seen the tweet, but let’s assume it was really pretty bad (I guess it was to result in a reasonably hefty fine). How long do you think his ban should be, assuming no repeat?

Doesn’t just depend on the offence, it also depends on behavioural change, education, making amends etc etc….similar as how prison works with parole. Indefinite is a good start though - maybe he can go and take some positive actions and then put a case together for his re-admittance….

Dick Swiveller · Feb 4, 2022

A quick Google search suggests he has played football to a county league standard. Wonder how long that will continue.

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