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[Football] You're Welsh- And You Know You Are...



Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Chester in a spot of bother for allowing fans at home matches as the ground is just across the border and subject to Welsh crowd restrictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59906505

What's good for Wrexham.....
 




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Robdinho

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Jul 26, 2004
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Is there any good reason why they can't / don't just move the border to the edge of town?
 






AmexRuislip

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HalfaSeatOn said:
Well that’s nicely cleared up by https://postcodebyaddress.co.uk/ch14lt ……CH1 4LT is within the Blacon ward/electoral division, which is in the constituency City of Chester. The Local Authority of postcode CH14LT is Cheshire West and Chester. CH14LT is located in the region of Wales in England.
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You do realise you've at least broken so many rules, in announcing Michael Owens property empire ???
 




PortuGull

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Jul 10, 2011
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-en...or-breach-of-welsh-coronavirus-rules-12511223

COVID: English football club Chester fear going out of business after being warned for breach of Welsh coronavirus rules
Although there are no restrictions on organised indoor events in England, in Wales sporting events must be played behind closed doors under rules to tackle the spread of the Omicron variant.

A non-league English football club fear going out of business after being warned it had breached COVID regulations due to its stadium apparently being located in Wales.

Chester FC said officials were called to a meeting with representatives from North Wales Police, Chester Police and two Welsh councils following fixtures played over the Christmas period.

The meeting discussed potential breaches of the Welsh COVID rules at the Vanarama National League North club's games against AFC Fylde on 28 December and AFC Telford United on 2 January.

The games were attended by crowds of 2,075 and 2,116 respectively.

Despite there being no rules on the number of people who can attend a match in England, in Wales sporting events must be played behind closed doors under rules to tackle the spread of the Omicron variant.

Chester is an English city, but the border with Wales runs through the centre of it - including across the club's Deva Stadium, leaving the ticket office in England and the pitch in Wales.

By law, all the fans could meet in the car park and the club would not be breaking any rules, but as soon as they step foot in the ground, they are governed by Welsh law.

What does the club say?

The club said they were given a letter, on behalf of North Wales Police and Flintshire County Council, outlining the possible rule-breaking, and are now seeking legal advice.

In a statement, they added, the letter warned that if the team continues to play matches in front of fans at its home ground while the current restrictions remain in place, then it may "commit further potential breaches".

Chairman Andy Morris told the PA news agency: "As a club, we rely on gate receipts. If the enforcement is we have to play behind closed doors, we are not a Welsh club, so we are not entitled to the financial support.

"The entire future of the club could be in doubt. There is no financial support for English clubs playing behind closed doors at the moment. It could be the end of the club."

Mr Morris said: "While acknowledging the border runs through the stadium, the club, for 30 years, has been treated as English with the registered address in England."

"It is amazing that, all of a sudden, we have found out we are Welsh," he added.

Chester are next due to play at home when they face Brackley Town on 15 January.
 








Curious Orange

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Not a ground I've been to, but having had a quick gander at Google maps it does appear that you can only actually get into the stadium site from the English side of the border, so I'd be surprised if a bit of common sense doesn't break out in the near future.
 


pure_white

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Dec 8, 2021
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if the WRU consider moving matches across the border maybe that's what the football teams will do too?
 


Eric the meek

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It's a fascinating quirk of geography, albeit a worrying development for Chester FC.

It makes you wonder how they built the stadium in the first place, seeing as it straddles Wales and England. How did they deal with two councils in two different countries?
 




jackanada

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Jul 19, 2011
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Eric the meek said:
It's a fascinating quirk of geography, albeit a worrying development for Chester FC.

It makes you wonder how they built the stadium in the first place, seeing as it straddles Wales and England. How did they deal with two councils in two different countries?
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It was still probably easier than dealing with two councils when one of them was Lewes
 




Tesco in Disguise

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Jul 5, 2003
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Neville's Breakfast said:
That’s not a serious suggestion…. Is it ?
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No-one's talking about making a gargantuan effort to move Jacob Rees-Mogg's drinks cabinet 6 inches closer to Cardiff, but it does seem like it would make administrative sense to have the border circle the town.
 




Cheshire Cat

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Nov 4, 2006
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Sitting on a bough of a tree a few yards off...


B-right-on

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Why would you build your stadium in a different country to the city it belongs to?

Yes Chester is on the boarder but still. Doesn't take a genius at the time to work out that it could be trouble down with road.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Tesco in Disguise said:
No-one's talking about making a gargantuan effort to move Jacob Rees-Mogg's drinks cabinet 6 inches closer to Cardiff, but it does seem like it would make administrative sense to have the border circle the town.
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It can be further complicated by ceremonial understanding against official borders.
 




Guinness Boy

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Robdinho

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Neville's Breakfast said:
That’s not a serious suggestion…. Is it ?
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Why not? There's like 3 buildings that fall on the Welsh side, one of which is the football stadium.
Why not just redraw the border slightly so that all of Chester is in England? It's an arbitrary, man-made line in the first place, after all.
 


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