Bold Seagull
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Colston Four Cleared
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Baldseagull
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Yet you will not enlighten the rest of us who apparently just think we know what happened. If you have some insight that the rest of us do not, why not help us to feel the way you do and educate us?
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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It's farcical that people are defending mob handed action without any prior agreement to what they were going to do regardless of what ever the statue stood for
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DF
Lower West Stander
Well-known member
Because I am deeply uncomfortable doing so.
It’s not pleasant and rather too close to home.
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Bold Seagull
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Weren’t you celebrating mob handed action in Hastings stopping the life boats being launched to help the migrant boats the other week?
I’m sure everyone who reads your posts will be stunned to discover your hypocrisy.
- Apr 13, 2015
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Those petitions were never signed by more that 10k signatories ... a lot of them transient students,..... 700k folk live in Bristol.
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You do realise that stating you know what their argument was (and their argument in this case is ONLY the argument presented by the defence in the court) and then stating that you weren't in court is completely contradictory, right?
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Not what I said at all. I don't happen to think that the move it to a museum suggestion is a bad thing, but you could also provide informational plaques in situ.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Including the former mayor, Cleo Lake?
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You are incorrect you know?
His ideology (Marxism) was indirectly responsible for millions of deaths not directly.
Ideology like Leninism can be more closely associated with the deaths of millions put perhaps it’s the warped ideology of Maosim & Stalinism that can be viewed as directly responsible for millions of deaths, these are quite, quite removed from Marxism which although incredibly naive and downright stupid in places, is not evil.
1066familyman
Radio User
- Jan 15, 2008
- 15,185
Well they can, and do, if they're members of The Bullingdon Club, like your mates Dave and BJ.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Sometimes it’s justified. Like breaking goalposts.
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I’m really proud that our judicial system recognised this.
These moments are very rare indeed though and will rightly be detailed in the museum as history was made the day Colston was tugged, dethroned and finally dunked.
drew
Drew
Bizarre comment. You don't have to be somewhere to have an idea what went on.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rial-urged-to-be-on-the-right-side-of-history
Read the comments relating to the closing arguments for the defence and no where do they try to claim they didn't actually topple the statue.
1066familyman
Radio User
- Jan 15, 2008
- 15,185
Someone's been reading the Wall Street Journal and USA today I see
You can equally argue Capitalism has been directly responsible for the deaths of literally millions of people, and furthermore is currently looking to be on course for causing the death of a planet.
But then that's History for you. Depends whose account you want to read.
johanngull
New member
- Jul 8, 2015
- 60
You missed a question. Were the Suffragettes who were caught causing criminal damage found not guilty if they found themselves in court on those charges?
I believe you can be charged with criminal damage and vandalism for smashing goalposts whether in a stadium or in a local park even if you believe the act was justified.
I understand how you can see it like that, but there is a great deal of context here; the deeds of the man, the attempts to have the statue removed by legal means, the intransigence of the authorities....
Imagine that you were descended from slaves, and the man that enslaved your ancestors had a statue in Hove park, commemorating the buildings he built with the profits made from buying and selling your ancestors.
Imagine you had campaigned repeatedly to have the statue put away in a museum (historical value acknowledged).
Imagine the council said "No, sir, we love this man, sir, he is revered here by us folk, sir".
And you tried again. And, rinse and repeat?
And you walked past the statue each day, and your kid said 'who is that great man, dad?'
What then?
This isn't an anonymous plaque on a park bench.
Justice was administered correctly today. Anyone with the slightest sense of fairness and compassion would applaud the removal of the statue and the subsequent verdict.
It's no shock to anyone that the usual handful of contrarians are arguing the opposite. The sort of people who would grass people up in Nazi Germany because "It's the law". The argument holds no water when the law in a particular instant is unjust.
It's no shock to anyone that the usual handful of contrarians are arguing the opposite. The sort of people who would grass people up in Nazi Germany because "It's the law". The argument holds no water when the law in a particular instant is unjust.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You can be charged & found not guilty, depending on the jury.
Justification is different.
- Apr 5, 2014
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A grave stone is a burial mark, a memorial bench something personal. A statue is a celebration of someone, a call to homage. Very different.