Thunder Bolt
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Sometimes things are justified. The Suffragettes caused criminal damage, but the cause was right.
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Sometimes things are justified. The Suffragettes caused criminal damage, but the cause was right.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
If you say so. You’ve obviously made your mind up.
Uter
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It absolutely does not mean that. This is a terrible interpretation of the verdict.
A jury found the defendants not guilty based upon the evidence put to them. That is all.
Lower West Stander
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No. You have.
I feel extremely strongly about this because I know exactly what happened.
And gross generalisations from people who don’t I find extremely unnecessary.
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Does all property glorify a slave trader involved in the enslavement of over 84,000 black men, women and children as a 'most virtuous and wise' man?
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Mentally, it sound like it, what were they thinking?
Can you imagine aeeing four kids smashing up a memorial park bench, because they didn't like the guy who it was a memorial for?
Or someone smashing up a grave stone of someone they didn't agree with.
This judgement is off the plot, if you ask me.
Seriously, it makes no sense at all.
Machiavelli
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The past is what came before the present. History is an account of the past, which is necessarily selective, and the accounts are informed by the contextual concerns, ideological and philosophical viewpoints, and methodologies of those that write that account.
That's because you're basing it on your political prejudices rather than spending the whole trial being presented with the evidence before making a decision as a group
Lower West Stander
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I can’t recall a thread on NSC which I feel as strongly about as this one.
Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that but when you are close to it as I was, some of this is very difficult to read.
I’m not posting on this thread again. Please just respect opinion and leave it there.
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Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that but when you are close to it as I was, some of this is very difficult to read.
I’m not posting on this thread again. Please just respect opinion and leave it there.
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clapham_gull
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If the very presence of the bench under current legislation could be a crime in itself yes.
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This is nothing to do with politics at all.
It's pure premeditated crime.
All vandals especially mob led, should feel the full force of the law, or where does it all stop?
You don't get it do you?
There was no crime. They are not vandals. That's the whole point of the trial verdict. You have decided otherwise and are now on very dodgy legal ground yourself. I'd be pretty careful what and how you post, given the verdict.
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...and if a mob descended on Highate Cemetery and trashed the Marx memorial, you know, that fella who created the ideology directly responsible for millions of deaths... millions.
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
That’s because history is interpretation whereas the past happens regardless of whether someone interprets it or not. That’s why we have ‘prehistory’ as a term. Reminds me of a Samuel Butler quote “God can’t alter the past, though historians can”.
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At this point, with all above I now understand that this is about politics and not crime.
So will leave you guys to keep rejoicing the four hereos.
Enjoy your evening.
drew
Drew
Really? Didn't they admit they were the ones that pulled the statue down. Their only defence was that it wasn't a criminal act.
johanngull
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Were the Suffragettes who were caught causing criminal damage found not guilty if they found themselves in court on those charges?
Is all criminal damage justified or just criminal damage if someone believes their cause is right?
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Some Bristolians,.. a politically active minority, most of them transient students at the university and colleges.... 700k people in Bristol,...
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Pretty pink fairy
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drew
Drew
Get off your high horse!!
They admitted they pulled the statue down but my understanding is their argument was that it wasn't a criminal act.
I wasn't in court and I'm guessing neither were you so we didn't hear or see any evidence. Neither of us heard the Judges summing up or direction to the jury. But juries do get it wrong, or, as I suspect in this case, there were people on the jury that didn't want to convict them.
It's my opinion they were as guilty as sin of causing criminal damage.