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[Finance] Santander paying out twice



Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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Due to a technical issue it seems many BACS payments from Santander to other banks where put through twice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59826345
Were you a lucky one?
What's the law on getting it all back? 75000 people so that's going to take a lot of work going through all those accounts and chasing each one. As some could be as little as under £300 will they bother with those I wonder.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Due to a technical issue it seems many BACS payments from Santander to other banks where put through twice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59826345
Were you a lucky one?
What's the law on getting it all back? 75000 people so that's going to take a lot of work going through all those accounts and chasing each one. As some could be as little as under £300 will they bother with those I wonder.
The law is quite clear. The money doesn't belong to the account holders and if they don't give it back it's theft.



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Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Due to a technical issue it seems many BACS payments from Santander to other banks where put through twice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59826345
Were you a lucky one?
What's the law on getting it all back? 75000 people so that's going to take a lot of work going through all those accounts and chasing each one. As some could be as little as under £300 will they bother with those I wonder.
It's a bank, they'll want every penny

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Wardy's twin

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Oct 21, 2014
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Due to a technical issue it seems many BACS payments from Santander to other banks where put through twice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59826345
Were you a lucky one?
What's the law on getting it all back? 75000 people so that's going to take a lot of work going through all those accounts and chasing each one. As some could be as little as under £300 will they bother with those I wonder.

turn it around 180 degrees were you one of the businesses that had a sh*t christmas because you thought someone had stolen your money.... not so lucky for them
 


A1X

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Does this not have implications for accounts which have stopped being overdrawn by this but will go back to being if and when the money goes back to Santander?
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Crawley
Many years back now, but someone had put the notes in the wrong place on a cash machine in Burgess Hill, if you asked for a tenner you got a twenty, and if you asked for twenty got a ten. A friend withdrew £10 about 10 times, each time with a receipt, the bank did contact them in an attempt to retrieve the £100 extra that they actually got, but they stuck to their guns and said they had receipts to prove they only took £10 each time, and got away with it.
 


jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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It's a bank, they'll want every penny

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They will claw back every penny for every single account affected. Firstly, because banks like money. Secondly, because it would increase their potential exposure/liability in future cases if they treated one customer differently to another. A customer in future could point to the bank not forcing others to repay in the past, and say that is the precedent. It'd be very unlikely to succeed legally, but it would just add to future legal expenses/man hours and probably more bad PR.

Finally, they aren't entitled to that money either morally or legally. Similarly I'm sure they will be diligent in refunding businesses who may have incurred bank-related expenses as a result (charges, interest, card processing fees).
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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They will claw back every penny for every single account affected. Firstly, because banks like money. Secondly, because it would increase their potential exposure/liability in future cases if they treated one customer differently to another. A customer in future could point to the bank not forcing others to repay in the past, and say that is the precedent. It'd be very unlikely to succeed legally, but it would just add to future legal expenses/man hours and probably more bad PR.

Finally, they aren't entitled to that money either morally or legally. Similarly I'm sure they will be diligent in refunding businesses who may have incurred bank-related expenses as a result (charges, interest, card processing fees).

It’s a simple legal position (case law from the 1800s, proven many times since) - unless you can argue you have changed your position as a result of the money that was ‘reasonably expected’ then you have to pay it back.
 


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