[Help] No Right Turn Offence

Bodian said:

My wife was stopped by the Police today for contravening a no right turn sign (it's a relatively new thing - been there since September relating to some large scale roadworks, first time we've been there since). She had to show her licence and was cautioned 'anything you may say, etc' - and the Police left her with 'you'll be hearing from us in due course - could be a fine, could be court'.

I can't quite work out the penalty / process. Seems a bit excessive to threaten court proceedings?

Anyone been through it?

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Springal said:

Sounds like the police office was being a bit of a nob. Should be a fixed penalty notice if they was the only offence surely ?

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dazzer6666 said:

Any help ?

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/fixed-penalty-notices/

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Creaky said:

I got stopped for ignoring a no U turn sign - I’m sure Edna will be able to give the exact wording but I was told at the time that I would be reported for consideration of prosecuting me for the offence, I think it was failing to comply with a traffic sign.

Never heard anything more.

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Bodian said:

Thanks dazzer - I found that as well, but it seems to be about Fixed Penalty Notices, and refers to no right turn offences as a 'Penalty Charge Notice' (issued by the council), and there seems to be little around on this. I shall keep looking! or just wait till we get the paperwork....

I did find this http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/fixed_penalty_notice.php which specifically refers to a FPN being issued by the Police when stopped contravening no right turn signs - but what concerns me is that she wasn't given a FPN there and then.

This looks helpful though https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/legal/fixed-penalty FPN for neglect of traffic directions, £100 & points (so much like speeding really).

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Seagulls over Essex said:

It's just scaremongering Bodian. Worst case scenario would be 3 penalty points plus the standard fine. Probably neither though.

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These offences are eligible for fixed penalty offer. Where there is a valid reason why the case could not be dealt with by fixed penalty (eg holder of a non-uk driving licence, licence at DVLA for change of details etc), impose a fine equivalent to fixed penalty, endorse licence as appropriate and do not order costs.

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happypig said:

I don't think you get points for failing to comply with a prohibited turn sign like you do for running a red light or no entry sign.
My (admittedly rather old) Bench book also says
So if she gets summonsed for it, she should tell the court that she wasn't offered a FPN and should only be fined the equivalent amount

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Gabbafella said:

Aren't Miranda rights only read when under arrest?

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B-right-on said:

I got done a few years ago for turning right when there was a sign (small, didn't see) saying not to in the Elephant and Castle area.

Got a fine only from LBC as an ANPR camera is apparently fitted there just to catch people like me who didn't know not to do it. Didn't get 3 points, just a fine in the post a couple of weeks later.

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Bodian said:

My wife was stopped by the Police today for contravening a no right turn sign (it's a relatively new thing - been there since September relating to some large scale roadworks, first time we've been there since). She had to show her licence and was cautioned 'anything you may say, etc' - and the Police left her with 'you'll be hearing from us in due course - could be a fine, could be court'.

I can't quite work out the penalty / process. Seems a bit excessive to threaten court proceedings?

Anyone been through it?

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rbridd said:

…and only in the U.S.A.

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lawros left foot said:

Under provisions of the 2 new bills that have gone through Parliament recently,the Police act and the Nationality and Borders bill they will be round to deport her Christmas morning.

No appeal.

Happy Christmas.

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Stat Brother said:

This post wouldn't look out of place had the good lady Bodian been riding a bicycle




#HangingsTooGoodFor'Em.

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