What about not boring us with whataboutery for a change?
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What about not boring us with whataboutery for a change?
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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They might be damaging Johnson but not the Tories at large.
They'll still walk the next election, whomever is in charge.
It's a clear conflict of interest.
I'm not sure that a conflict of interest is an offence in parliament, though. A few days ago folk were queuing up on NSC to defend the idea of MPs having two jobs. It doesn't take much of a leap of imagination to consider it just fine when the two jobs merge into one, where the MP enriches himself and his party in return for easily defensible disbursement of contracts.
And many of those who don't see this as corrupt are part of the 'all politicians are the same' brigade.
And then, of course, some oaf will pop along with a story about Tony Blair to prove the point.
And in 3 years time Boris will win another comfortable victory, which is what most of the above always wanted
dadams2k11
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F8ck em all.
There is absolutely nothing the public can do, and they know it.
We are just pawns in their game.
I will get of the fence now as I can feel them splinters.
There is absolutely nothing the public can do, and they know it.
We are just pawns in their game.
I will get of the fence now as I can feel them splinters.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Not illegal but against the rules.It's a clear conflict of interest.
I'm not sure that a conflict of interest is an offence in parliament, though. A few days ago folk were queuing up on NSC to defend the idea of MPs having two jobs. It doesn't take much of a leap of imagination to consider it just fine when the two jobs merge into one, where the MP enriches himself and his party in return for easily defensible disbursement of contracts.
And many of those who don't see this as corrupt are part of the 'all politicians are the same' brigade.
And then, of course, some oaf will pop along with a story about Tony Blair to prove the point.
And in 3 years time Boris will win another comfortable victory, which is what most of the above always wanted
The bloke who runs education for our local council has implemented a cull of little village schools, his other job is owner of a coach company who (amongst other things) provide school transport. He’s a conservative too.
Its endemic.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I suspect the reason for centralising supply was so that different parts of NHS were not trying to outbid each other for resources, or stockpiling by one department causing shortages elsewhere. I also suspect that when Ministers saw the chance, they were scrambling to get their chums in on the spending spree, if those chums were well placed to deliver what was required, I could forgive it, but they were not, and in some cases it seems they formed companies overnight, just for the purpose of getting on the gravy train.
nicko31
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Seems Meller Designs saw its profits rise by more than 9,000% during the latest accounting period, from £143,000 to £13 million for the period ending December 2020
All this after £63k investing in Govie and the Tories
That's what I call a return on investment
Right lets wait for the next piece of whataboutary from 19 years ago...
All this after £63k investing in Govie and the Tories
That's what I call a return on investment
Right lets wait for the next piece of whataboutary from 19 years ago...
Edit - wrong poster. Reply deleted.
dadams2k11
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- Jan 3, 2012
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Indeed! That's what I meant!
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Calm, calm 'H'.
My point, albeit in a foreign language, was to point out that whoever, whenever runs the show, the noses are always rammed into the trough.
Don't get your best pair of cords into a twist.
Raleigh Chopper
New member
Whilst all this was going on, in the middle of a pandemic, with a lack of PPE, companies saying that they can and do produce what is needed and being ignored, health workers were catching Covid with some dying.
Meanwhile a very good friend of mine who is a Physiotherapist was taken off her duties, for obvious reasons, and because she is a decent dressmaker, was asked to produce PPE from bin bags to try and protect the staff.
And someone puts up a clip of Angela Rayner, who I agree is a bit potty mouthed, in a MP lies shocker to try and justify this.
It does not even come close to justifying what Johnson and the cabinet did to fund their pals.
Meanwhile a very good friend of mine who is a Physiotherapist was taken off her duties, for obvious reasons, and because she is a decent dressmaker, was asked to produce PPE from bin bags to try and protect the staff.
And someone puts up a clip of Angela Rayner, who I agree is a bit potty mouthed, in a MP lies shocker to try and justify this.
It does not even come close to justifying what Johnson and the cabinet did to fund their pals.
KNC
Well-known member
Apparently, the current issue of Private Eye is worth a read.
I keep saying Our Political system is completely broken, the Houses of Parliament are no longer fit for purpose and dispute spending hundreds of millions will remain so.
The first post system (FPTP) is only used in two countries in Europe the UK and Belarus it’s true Poland uses FPTP for its second house while we have a totally unelected second house, only two countries in the world have unelected religious leaders making laws the UK and Iran.
The first post system (FPTP) is only used in two countries in Europe the UK and Belarus it’s true Poland uses FPTP for its second house while we have a totally unelected second house, only two countries in the world have unelected religious leaders making laws the UK and Iran.
Really quite disappointing to see the usual posters trying to defend this. Seriously, what are you thinking?
I don’t even see the mob we have in government as a legitimate political party. They are the political wing of corrupt elite. And they are tearing Britain apart for their own gain.
In a civilised world they would all be slung out and have their assets frozen. Bunch of posh fraudsters who have snuck into power.
I hope we live to see the downfall of this band of b@stards.
I don’t even see the mob we have in government as a legitimate political party. They are the political wing of corrupt elite. And they are tearing Britain apart for their own gain.
In a civilised world they would all be slung out and have their assets frozen. Bunch of posh fraudsters who have snuck into power.
I hope we live to see the downfall of this band of b@stards.
Yes, I understand your point, and I refute it. Most MPs on both sides of the house are honourable and diligent. Unfortunately the Boris gang is a minority in the tory party, and are crooks who have taken over the show.
It is pernicious and wrong to conclude they are all the same. That way precludes change.
Which is what I suspect you want - no change, and the Boris gang in charge. Poor show. Very poor show.
Your language is far from foreign. I last owned cords in1975.
dadams2k11
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No worries,I had a spasm. Apologies.
Your user pic is far too similar to another's
Can't say I've noticed a similar pic. I'm intrigued now. [emoji846]