[Politics] Assisted Dying

jakarta · Oct 22, 2021

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59009053

Didn't realise Frank Field was terminally ill. Very sad for a very decent man, hope he goes peacefully.

Having seen the miserable state my Aunt was in when she eventually died of cancer I am all for Assisted Dying.

We seem to be able to prolong peoples lives with no prospect of recovery, while not asking them if they want to stay alive any longer?

Shropshire Seagull · Oct 22, 2021

Sad, emotive and highly controversial subject.

Folk say we are kinder to our pets than our own kind when it comes to euthanasia - trouble is, very few pets leave money in their will ....

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 22, 2021

I agree with the idea in principle, but it would need rock solid safeguards. If this can't be provided then better not to allow it

Machiavelli · Oct 22, 2021

It looks as though the debate is shifting this time around. We shall see if this is the case, and what comes out of it.

m@goo · Oct 22, 2021

I think it's something a compassionate and forward thinking society should be able to do.

It's perfectly possible to safeguard it with medical professionals and a solicitor/judge.

A mex eyecan · Oct 22, 2021

Nobby Cybergoat said:
I agree with the idea in principle, but it would need rock solid safeguards. If this can't be provided then better not to allow it

in principle it sounds all well and good, and i for one have always said a trip to Holland seems a good way out.

however, my concern is that it could open up Pandora’s box. How long until it’s deemed a special circumstance that AN Other is given special permission to make the decision for you …

a slippery old slope. Of course we would all be reassured at the outset that such ‘extras’ could never happen, but we all know what happens when the thin edge of the wedge gets leant on a bit heavy.

Silverhatch · Oct 22, 2021

Write an Advanced Decision and review it every couple of years. My family and health professionals know my wishes if I’m incapacitated physically or mentally. The best safeguard is for key people to know what YOU want. It’s even more maddening that terminally ill people have to die months before they need to just so they can get on a plane to Switzerland (unaided) so removing the likelihood of post-death litigation; that’s ****ing barbaric!

Perfidious Albion · Oct 22, 2021

I am totally in favour of assisted dying, where necessary. It seems to me a human right that we should be able to end our life if it becomes unbearable.
Of course safeguards have to be built in but they would be.

Titanic · Oct 22, 2021

Perfidious Albion said:
I am totally in favour of assisted dying, where necessary. It seems to me a human right that we should be able to end our life if it becomes unbearable.
Of course safeguards have to be built in but they would be.

Two doctors and a High Court judge.

Goldstone1976 · Oct 22, 2021

My father was passionately against it for as long as I can remember. He remained of the same opinion after his diagnosis of terminal liver cancer. I hold a different view, not least as a consequence of having witnessed the last 4 months of his life.

beorhthelm · Oct 22, 2021

dont think it even needs to be limited to terminally ill. seeing deterioration of grandparents, wouldnt want to live like that.

Westdene Seagull · Oct 22, 2021

As someone that recently lost his father to blood cancer I'm all for it. After the diagnosis Dad even said he'd like to be able to slip without of the pain etc at a time of his choosing. I personally think it's selfish not to allow people to end their suffering at a point of their choosing.

Icy Gull · Oct 22, 2021

Shropshire Seagull said:
Sad, emotive and highly controversial subject.

Folk say we are kinder to our pets than our own kind when it comes to euthanasia - trouble is, very few pets leave money in their will ....

Yep, absolute can of worms in so many cases I’d suggest. Too many money grubbing ******** in my experience. I’ve experience of too many people basically stealing from their parents and relatives to be totally comfortable with it. Although I’d like to think my kids are better than that.

It’s a tough one as in so many ways it’s a good and kind idea.

dazzer6666 · Oct 22, 2021

Goldstone1976 said:
My father was passionately against it for as long as I can remember. He remained of the same opinion after his diagnosis of terminal liver cancer. I hold a different view, not least as a consequence of having witnessed the last 4 months of his life.

Likewise - having watched my (much younger) sister endure what turned into several weeks of ‘living but not living’ with zero chance of recovery and absolutely zero quality of life I’m 100% for it, as she was. I also don’t mind there being people passionately against it - would be complete personal choice of course so their views shouldn’t impact those that wish to make the decision. There should be the option for those that choose it.

Nobby Cybergoat · Oct 22, 2021

A mex eyecan said:
in principle it sounds all well and good, and i for one have always said a trip to Holland seems a good way out.

however, my concern is that it could open up Pandora’s box. How long until it’s deemed a special circumstance that AN Other is given special permission to make the decision for you …

a slippery old slope. Of course we would all be reassured at the outset that such ‘extras’ could never happen, but we all know what happens when the thin edge of the wedge gets leant on a bit heavy.

I tend to agree with you.

I see it a bit like VAR. Once you introduce it, you'll never be able to get rid of it, no matter how undesirable the outcomes are

Weststander · Oct 22, 2021

jakarta said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59009053

Didn't realise Frank Field was terminally ill. Very sad for a very decent man, hope he goes peacefully.

Having seen the miserable state my Aunt was in when she eventually died of cancer I am all for Assisted Dying.

We seem to be able to prolong peoples lives with no prospect of recovery, while not asking them if they want to stay alive any longer?

Neither did I.

A legend of a parliamentarian, he’s always fought for social justice …. with some charm, an expert on benefits and pensions and a conciliator (we could do with more of that). Love people like him in public life.

People in chronic pain and suffering should have a big say in when they pass, with safeguards.

Lyndhurst 14 · Oct 22, 2021

You have no choice about how, when and where you come into the world - that should not be the case when you leave it

lawros left foot · Oct 22, 2021

Isn’t’Do not resuscitate’ orders a form of euthanasia?

Worthing exile · Oct 22, 2021

Does Assisted Dying invalidate life insurances the same as suicide?

Swansman · Oct 22, 2021

A mex eyecan said:
in principle it sounds all well and good, and i for one have always said a trip to Holland seems a good way out.

however, my concern is that it could open up Pandora’s box. How long until it’s deemed a special circumstance that AN Other is given special permission to make the decision for you …

a slippery old slope. Of course we would all be reassured at the outset that such ‘extras’ could never happen, but we all know what happens when the thin edge of the wedge gets leant on a bit heavy.

It is a bit of a slippery slope.

The idea isnt bad, but I dont want a development such as in the Netherlands where someone got his death assisted due to alcoholism.

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