[News] Covid response ‘one of UK’s worst ever public health failures’

The Clamp · Oct 12, 2021

Early inquiry verdicts not shining a good light on our government. Or the scientific community, to be fair.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-one-of-uks-worst-ever-public-health-failures

Since1982 · Oct 12, 2021

And it's an inquiry led by Tories. Will this finally put a stop to all the "Boris did the best he could nonsense"?

Chicken Run · Oct 12, 2021

Wow,the shock of the century, we never knew…..

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Jim Van Winkle · Oct 12, 2021

In other news: Bear shits in woods.

Is it PotG? · Oct 12, 2021

Fear ye not, Sir Kneel will be along shortly to put everyone right.

Neville's Breakfast · Oct 12, 2021

I don’t think anybody would disagree with the conclusions of that report (well, maybe apart from the anti lockdown crew).

Hugo Rune · Oct 12, 2021

Is it PotG? said:
Fear ye not, Sir Kneel will be along shortly to put everyone right.

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Shame the Tories didn’t listen to him when he demanded a lock down last Autumn to prevent huge rises in Covid and thousands of subsequent deaths.

They also ignored the advice of SAGE over this and their hands are covered in blood. Much like Boris’ hands when he was holding the pigs head whilst Cameron ****ed it during a Bullingdon initiation. What they did to that pig, they’ve been doing to our country for over a decade.

Notters · Oct 12, 2021

The Clamp said:
Covid response ‘one of UK’s worst ever public health failures'

Book one in the series out now.
Stay tuned for Brexit Response 'one of the UK's worst ever economic planning failures', available in all good book stores, early 2022.

Is it PotG? · Oct 12, 2021

Notters said:
Book one in the series out now.
Stay tuned for Brexit Response 'one of the UK's worst ever economic planning failures', available in all good book stores, early 2022.

Who is the publisher?

JC Footy Genius · Oct 12, 2021

The report was far more balanced and nuanced than the headline siggrests but this thread is all about point scoring so do carry on...

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Neville's Breakfast · Oct 12, 2021

I know people would prefer to discuss Brexit and class warfare but one interesting part of the report I hadn’t previously picked up on was the decision not to investigate properly following the South Korean model. My own view is it stemmed from a fear of confronting businesses and a belief that the population would not comply. Both of which were well founded.

Gwylan · Oct 12, 2021

JC Footy Genius said:
The report was far more balanced and nuanced than the headline siggrests but this thread is all about point scoring so do carry on...

OK, that's the Guardian. Just for balance, here's a Tory paper's version, for a more favourable spin. "Devastating report by MPs into Covid pandemic lays bare Government blunders" "test and trace fiasco"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...vid-crisis-lays-bare-Government-blunders.html

CheeseRolls · Oct 12, 2021

JC Footy Genius said:
The report was far more balanced and nuanced than the headline siggrests but this thread is all about point scoring so do carry on...

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Is it about point scoring though? A quick count suggests that more than half of the posts on this thread are immediately dismissing the report. I haven't had a chance to read it yet let alone make my mind up.

dazzer6666 · Oct 12, 2021

Hugo Rune said:
Shame the Tories didn’t listen to him when he demanded a lock down last Autumn to prevent huge rises in Covid and thousands of subsequent deaths.

They also ignored the advice of SAGE over this and their hands are covered in blood. Much like Boris’ hands when he was holding the pigs head whilst Cameron ****ed it during a Bullingdon initiation. What they did to that pig, they’ve been doing to our country for over a decade.

To be fair, SAGE have repeatedly come out with awful advice and predictions throughout this as well - many of which proved to be nonsense very quickly. Not many come out of this with much credit (vaccine developers and keyworkers etc excepted, obviously), but ain’t hindsight wonderful :shrug:

amexer · Oct 12, 2021

nobody has had to ever deal with anything like Covid before. I have no doubt throughout Europe all leaders will be looking at what they did well and what they did wrong and hopefully learn from it . UK governments and scientist will be doing the same.

Is it PotG? · Oct 12, 2021

If only they'd listened to the considerable pandemic and medical knowledge to be found on NSC.

The Clamp · Oct 12, 2021

Is it PotG? said:
If only they'd listened to the considerable pandemic and medical knowledge to be found on NSC.

Or indeed the medical experts telling them to lock down ASAP.

Is it PotG? · Oct 12, 2021

The Clamp said:
Or indeed the medical experts telling them to lock down ASAP.

I agree, in hindsight, a quicker lockdown may have been more prudent.

Enforcement/compliance would have been interesting, our great nation might have been a little reluctant in the early days given that even with what we know now, some still refuse to toe the line.

The Clamp · Oct 12, 2021

The instant dismissal from some posters was predictable. But when people say it was unprecedented (it wasn’t) and how could they have known what to do? Well read the report itself, it tells you exactly how they could have known what to do and details how they failed to act.
It’s all very well to dismiss it outright. Read the report.

Gwylan · Oct 12, 2021

amexer said:
nobody has had to ever deal with anything like Covid before. I have no doubt throughout Europe all leaders will be looking at what they did well and what they did wrong and hopefully learn from it . UK governments and scientist will be doing the same.

That's completely untrue - as the report points out. The failure of the governement was not to take into account how countries that had experienced pandemics, Sars, for example. South Korea, which has a similar population to the UK (and is more dense) had a very low casualty rate because they had a range of responses to a pandemic which the government swiftly put in place. The UK government paid no attention at all to measures that could have helped - that's what's so damning

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