[Other Sport] Stub Hub explanation please?

Lenny Rider said:

Yes, I'm old, yes I much prefer box offices you can queue outside or phone on a landline number but can anyone explain to me how stub hub works? And how its legal?

I'm planning to take a group of Gentlemen of a certain age to the AJ fight on 25th September, but the tickets allegedly sold out within 'minutes' via stub hub, but now I can see I can buy numerous tickets off stub hub but at a much higher price than the face value.

I thought ticket touting, which this is, is illegal, so how can it be done in such plain sight?

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Lenny Rider said:

Yes, I'm old, yes I much prefer box offices you can queue outside or phone on a landline number but can anyone explain to me how stub hub works? And how its legal?

I'm planning to take a group of Gentlemen of a certain age to the AJ fight on 25th September, but the tickets allegedly sold out within 'minutes' via stub hub, but now I can see I can buy numerous tickets off stub hub but at a much higher price than the face value.

I thought ticket touting, which this is, is illegal, so how can it be done in such plain sight?

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KeegansHairPiece said:

They're owned by eBay and are an official ticket reseller. So depends on the event terms and conditions. For those resell tickets stubhub is just hosting a transaction between you and a ticket owner. Unless the T&Cs state you can't sell on or transfer your ticket, it's not touting unfortunately.

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KeegansHairPiece said:

They're owned by eBay and are an official ticket reseller. .

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Superphil said:

Worse than that, they are owned by Viagogo.

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Wardy's twin said:

it's worse than touting it contrived by bigger organisers to upsell tickets at amounts hugely above their face value. They get away with it because they find people with more money than sense to buy them.

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KeegansHairPiece said:

Wow!

So eBay bought it for $310m in 2007, sold it for $4000m in 2020. That’s a decent 13 year profit.

Julien Lavelle a global ‘super scalper’ has a multi-million pound business just through touting on Stubhub etc.

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timbha said:

It’s the corporate market that feeds this unpleasant industry, ie Miss Moneypenny, We need to impress xxxxx, get me xx of the best tickets for xxxx. I don’t care what they cost.

Not accusing you of this Lenny!

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timbha said:

It’s the corporate market that feeds this unpleasant industry, ie Miss Moneypenny, We need to impress xxxxx, get me xx of the best tickets for xxxx. I don’t care what they cost.

Not accusing you of this Lenny!

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Superphil said:

Yup, I watched a documentary (maybe on YT) about one of them, he has specially written software that pretty much ensures he can buy the best tickets before anyone gets close to them. He bragged about spending tens or hundreds of thousands on tickets on the basis that he'd sell them all for a profit later.

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Lenny Rider said:

To be fair I have been forced down this route before, when I took Harty Jnr to the Portugal Q-F in Gelsenkirchen in 2006, and most recently the 2020 final at Wembley, but I knew the ground rules, I phoned the same bloke twice, we agreed prices, although clearly a factor was I buried his dear old Mum in 2004, Matchroom sell all the tickets through Stub Hub then within hours of the sell out, its all back on sale at inflated prices, surely Matchroom should be questioning it as well? Unless their in on it?

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KeegansHairPiece said:

According to the stuff on the guy posted above, they write coding bots that basically buy up all the tickets the second they go on sale. Us plebs sitting hitting refresh don't stand a chance. Clearly the organisers don't give a monkeys.

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Lenny Rider said:

To be fair I have been forced down this route before, when I took Harty Jnr to the Portugal Q-F in Gelsenkirchen in 2006, and most recently the 2020 final at Wembley, but I knew the ground rules, I phoned the same bloke twice, we agreed prices, although clearly a factor was I buried his dear old Mum in 2004, Matchroom sell all the tickets through Stub Hub then within hours of the sell out, its all back on sale at inflated prices, surely Matchroom should be questioning it as well? Unless their in on it?

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I just read that the fight took 24 hours to sell out. Thats a reasonable window of opportunity; it seems, for this particular event, plebs did stand a chance. Why the OP didn’t buy tickets during this time I don’t know, but it seems it was possible.

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