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[Football] Talking point Ben White



Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,186
Yes i know he's not our player anymore but, from a football point of view do you think he'll be able to step up to the incoming bombardment of longballs he's going to face this season?

Brilliant player when he has real strength next to him, be fascinating to see if he can adjust his game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhsWrkP7h88
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Hard to disagree with their analysis tbf. White looked so good for us because of our formation and the fact that Dunk and Webster were good in the air and the introduction of Sanchez who isn’t afraid to come and claim the ball. Different kettle of fish now he hasn’t got that quality around him in defence at Arsenal.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,555
On the Border
I fear it will get worse next game as probably up against Lukaku as mentioned in the video, that could be a horror show for White.
An obvious solution, Arsenal switch to a back 3, but I don't see that happening, so White will I am sure adapt as the season progresses and become better in dealing with the situations mentioned.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Needs to build a bit of muscle but he will be fine in the long run.

Thought his two best games (Man City & Leeds) last season were in midfield, wouldnt shock me if he ends up there in the end, if he struggles as a defender.
 




Kosh

'The' Yaztromo
Yep, wrong system, wrong player, wrong club.

To be fair any CB in the country, with the possible exception of VVD, will be shitting it prior to playing against Lukaku! Ultimately unless Arsenal revert to a system that works for BW we’re looking at a fish out of water, or a duck out of water (waddling about) at best.

It’s early days, but that price tag carries so much pressure… I wish him well.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,110
Surrey
Hard to disagree with their analysis tbf. White looked so good for us because of our formation and the fact that Dunk and Webster were good in the air and the introduction of Sanchez who isn’t afraid to come and claim the ball. Different kettle of fish now he hasn’t got that quality around him in defence at Arsenal.

It is astonishing that Arsenal have jizzed £50m on a defender that doesn't solve their biggest issues. They need a modern day Steve Bould or Tony Adams. If they got one, they'd get the best out of White and would probably look a completely different side. Maybe they will still get that player, but for now White looks a clueless signing.
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
21,481
England
When they signed him I just assumed he would be in a 3 at the back.

IF they are genuinely planning on playing him in a back 4 then the transfer was utter madness.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
6,832
I don't see Arteta lasting that long. The Ben faces an uphill battle for his place. Good luck to the fella, except when he plays us
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,380
West west west Sussex
Yep, wrong system, wrong player, wrong club.

To be fair any CB in the country, with the possible exception of VVD, will be shitting it prior to playing against Lukaku! Ultimately unless Arsenal revert to a system that works for BW we’re looking at a fish out of water, or a duck out of water (waddling about) at best.

It’s early days, but that price tag carries so much pressure… I wish him well.
Lukaku running at you, Burnt Leno behind and Rob Holding next to you - not good.

Although the same could be said if you swapped out Lukaku for Big Jurg.
 




Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
4,873
Bognor Regis
It is astonishing that Arsenal have jizzed £50m on a defender that doesn't solve their biggest issues. They need a modern day Steve Bould or Tony Adams. If they got one, they'd get the best out of White and would probably look a completely different side. Maybe they will still get that player, but for now White looks a clueless signing.

Arsenal have already got that player in Gabriel Magalhaes.
He's out injured at the moment after picking up a knee injury when winning the Olympic Gold medal with Brazil.
He's expected to be out for about a month which is rather unhelpful to Arsenal.

White and Gabriel will make a great partnership.
 


Oscar

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Nov 10, 2003
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I must admit that I was surprised to see him play as a normal CB. It's not his position and he was hopelessly exposed by being put in that position. Still, £50m eh!?:)
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Arsenal need someone like Dunk or Webster to be a more commanding presence, White was the wrong option. Put White next to a Maguire or a Van Dijk and he’d excel.
 




albionfan37

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Aug 14, 2014
4,148
What’s it called? Cumbernauld
Wrong move going to arsenal if they still had an adams type it would be different but at his age and experience level to be the main man it was always going to be tricky. Next to maguire those two would be a very strong pairing
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,153
Wish him all the best but as said Arsenal should have spent that money on Dunk 4 years ago. As sky boys said all top CBs are now good at going forward and priority for a £50m CB is to be able to defend and not get pushed about. If White is expected to defend 50% of high balls at Arsenal he could be in for a lot of stick
 








Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Nov 12, 2006
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Near Dorchester, Dorset
Arsenal have a long history of tall, strong, dominant CBs who I imagine hang around the club as "legends" in one capacity of another. I'm sure they will get time with Ben and share the dark arts he requires. He's short for a modern CB, but not that short. He doesn't appear very robust - so maybe a combo of some coaching and adding a bit of muscle will be the answer. But if I'd just spent £50m, I'd have wanted all that in place from the off, if that's what was missing from the squad.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Wish him all the best but as said Arsenal should have spent that money on Dunk 4 years ago. As sky boys said all top CBs are now good at going forward and priority for a £50m CB is to be able to defend and not get pushed about. If White is expected to defend 50% of high balls at Arsenal he could be in for a lot of stick

We play them in a few weeks. Our tactics will be very telling. We know his weaknesses better thn any (including Leeds, his weaknesses only evolved after he came out from under Bielsa's wing) - we're sure to target them if we can.
 



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