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Simster · Aug 16, 2021

Just taken from another thread:

Bry Nylon said:
Last season Maupay’s effort would probably have been straight at the keeper and Mac’s shot would have been inadvertently blocked by one of our own players.

Out of interest anyone know what our XG was On Saturday? Makes a refreshing change to win a game on real goals and not expected ones?

xGs were 1.79 Burnley and 1.60 Albion

Anyway, I think we all know why these things didn't happen don't we:

Welcome back proper stripes. Please can we never EVER go back to that all-blue (well, crappy pin-stripes) shit again? They are shit shit shit :shit:

SHIT.

est.83 · Aug 16, 2021

Simster said:
xGs were 1.79 Burnley and 1.60 Albion

Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

Nobby Cybergoat · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

It's almost as if the quality of the goal scoring chance is subjective or something?

Simster · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

I just read it somewhere, can't remember the source. Not that it matters. The only thing that matters is that we are playing in stripes again.

A1X · Aug 16, 2021

I actually liked last season’s shirt TBH

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Aug 16, 2021

A1X said:
I actually liked last season’s shirt TBH

[Wastes three minutes looking for thumbs down button]

Arthur · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

Which shows it is all a load of bollocks.

We scored twice both were pretty straightforward chances why is expected goals less than actual goals?

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

They all have us at about 1.7 and we scored 2. Maybe, whisper it, we are going to start scoring the goals our play actually deserves.

Swansman · Aug 16, 2021

The stripes are nice but getting rid of that hideous collar is the real cause for celebration.

Neville's Breakfast · Aug 16, 2021

Nobby Cybergoat said:
It's almost as if the quality of the goal scoring chance is subjective or something?

You’re joking ! We kept getting told last season that it didn’t matter that we lost games because in fact our ‘XG’ was so good. It’s almost as if those people were making that up !

Me and my Monkey · Aug 16, 2021

A1X said:
I actually liked last season’s shirt TBH

Me too (thumbs up)

Simster · Aug 16, 2021

A1X said:
I actually liked last season’s shirt TBH

Poor quality post.

hans kraay fan club · Aug 16, 2021

Arthur said:
Which shows it is all a load of bollocks.

We scored twice both were pretty straightforward chances why is expected goals less than actual goals?

Because they were both presentable chances that you'd expect to score (roughly) 60% of the time for Maupay's one (so 0.6xG) and perhaps 50% of the time for MacA's (so 0.5xG). Add a few more little chances and get to the total around 1.7. No chance is a whole xG. Even a penalty is only given as 0.75 or something.

B-right-on · Aug 16, 2021

I thought Burnley were doing an 'us' by hitting the post, crossbar and cleared off the line.

Billy the Fish · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

I've got my own algorithm. It's purely from watching MOTD

Burney 2.63999999
Brighton4.19427965446896543214674993900779954321246666666677899999

Perfidious Albion · Aug 16, 2021

I have lauded the return of the stripes... it is just “right” to see The Albion in blue and white stripes.
I have seen a home strip that was
Blue body white sleeves, an all white strip , all blue .. perhaps others . But we what we are . Long may we keep them

Nobby Cybergoat · Aug 16, 2021

hans kraay fan club said:
Because they were both presentable chances that you'd expect to score (roughly) 60% of the time for Maupay's one (so 0.6xG) and perhaps 50% of the time for MacA's (so 0.5xG). Add a few more little chances and get to the total around 1.7. No chance is a whole xG. Even a penalty is only given as 0.75 or something.

This is why I don't really believe striker should be judged on whether they have beaten their XG.

Neal and Alexis got their goals because of impeccably timed movement in the box. Had they not made the runs they did, there would have been an XG of zero because there was no chance.

Cumuluative XG would actually be a better indicator of a strikers worth than xg v actual goals

GT49er · Aug 16, 2021

A1X said:
I actually liked last season’s shirt TBH

It was fine - for Chelsea or Leicester.

Guinness Boy · Aug 16, 2021

efafan said:
Not that it matters much but where are you getting your xg stats from?

I checked 3 sites:

- Fotmob app: Burnley 1.40 - Brighton 1.73
- understat.com: Burnley 1.80 - Brighton 1.69
- footystats.org: Burnley 1.36 - Brighton 1.68

So basically everyone can have their own xg methodology?

Arthur said:
Which shows it is all a load of bollocks.

We scored twice both were pretty straightforward chances why is expected goals less than actual goals?

While HKFC's explanation makes sense, the fact that every site has its own way of doing it does, indeed, show it is bollocks. A goal is a goal. It's the only attacking stat that really counts.

However, back to SHIRTS. I really liked last season's yellow away kit. Definite memories of being on away terraces back in the day singing "Yellows, Yellows". But at home it simply has to be PROPER stripes from now on. There should be some kind of law about it.

1066familyman · Aug 16, 2021

Is xg meant to stand for expected goals? If so, what's wrong with eg?

Has a team ever scored 1.something goals in a game? Maybe one goal and one that nearly, but not quite, went in perhaps?

What a load of complete and utter bollox modern football analysis is :nono:

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