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[Albion] Are we done with loan players?
- Thread starter Icy Gull
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Ashworth said at a recent Seagulls over London event that the club don't like taking any players on loan these days. Words to the effect that 'we take them, develop them, and pass them back to the parent club a better and more valuable player'.
He didn't rule it out completely, but did say it wasn't a part of our strategy.
He didn't rule it out completely, but did say it wasn't a part of our strategy.
GingerBeerMan
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- Dec 29, 2011
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A loan player is like renting a house. It makes little financial sense if you have the capital to buy a house upfront and allow it to appreciate.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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All the while we are in the Premier league, why would we?
Any youngster who need development can get that in the championship and blocks the pathway of our own youngsters.
any top 6 cast off looking for game-time will be a big drain on our wage bill.
Any youngster who need development can get that in the championship and blocks the pathway of our own youngsters.
any top 6 cast off looking for game-time will be a big drain on our wage bill.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I *think* Mooy was the last ?
I'm sure we'll get another at some point.
I'm sure we'll get another at some point.
B-right-on
Living the dream
Good example. And Mr Bloom is not in the habit of developing players for the profit of others if he can do it himself, way to smart an operator for that.
Loans are more for a 'lack of something better' type of situation, but they are avoided with foresight and planning.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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This is the key point.
Tony Bloom's strategy is to use the EPL increased revenue to generate profits,
The extra cash funds an industry of player development.
We have seen plenty of examples of buying and selling players who will most likely never play in the PL, but will generate profit.
nwgull
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This. It’s obvious, isn’t it?
We’re playing in the best league in the world. We no longer have the option to take on young players from a team at a higher level to give them experience at a lower level.
We seem to have missed step 4 of the strategy.
Whine and moan about the parent club not selling the player to us, confirm that we "made" the player despite having him for approx. 15% of his career.
- Jun 27, 2012
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This is still seemingly the strategy it appears for Norwich (Billy Gilmour), Palace (Batshuayi), Newcastle (Willock), Villa (Barkley) and so on.
GT49er
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It's possible, but unlikely. Some are jumping to the conclusion that we'd be loaning a player to develop them for someone else - not so. Any loan would not be a youngster, more of a Welbeck or Lallana type player, experienced and high quality, but unlike those two, one that might not be accessible to us to buy.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Post numero uno
To me, the biggest danger of taking loan players is the messaging to our young players, within the club and to prospective signings.
Players like Moder, Lamptey, Khadra are joining us because we're convincing them there is a pathway to top level football there. Not sure we want to dilute that message by denying them game time to improve a Chelsea prospect.
The only exception is occasionally you get a situation like Willock where you can get someone in to see your club and it increases your chances (though doesn't guarantee) of signing a decent player.
Cheers ..... Nob
To me, the biggest danger of taking loan players is the messaging to our young players, within the club and to prospective signings.
Players like Moder, Lamptey, Khadra are joining us because we're convincing them there is a pathway to top level football there. Not sure we want to dilute that message by denying them game time to improve a Chelsea prospect.
The only exception is occasionally you get a situation like Willock where you can get someone in to see your club and it increases your chances (though doesn't guarantee) of signing a decent player.
Cheers ..... Nob
We'll have one when Leeds need one of their young players developing, then we can all throw our toys out the pram when they ask for them back at the end of the season.
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The most recent loan signing was Jack Wakely, last season.
Machiavelli
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I voted no, by mistake, when I meant yes.
It's a qualified yes though. Provided we remain in the PL and Bloom continues with the current strategy, it's a yes.
It's a qualified yes though. Provided we remain in the PL and Bloom continues with the current strategy, it's a yes.
Dan Ashworth said in a Q&A a couple of months ago that the strategy of the club is to develop their own players, not the players of other teams and then returning them. Aaron Mooy was different in that there was a buy-option though he implied that even in that case it wasn't ideal.
Think that's about a clear an answer that the club could give.
TL;DR - According to our Technical Director, Yes, we are done with loans
Think that's about a clear an answer that the club could give.
TL;DR - According to our Technical Director, Yes, we are done with loans