[Albion] Undisclosed transfer fees

moggy

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Oct 15, 2003

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southwick

• Jul 18, 2021

• #1

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

 

Washie

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Jun 20, 2011

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Eastbourne

• Jul 18, 2021

• #2

moggy said:

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

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But then it allows other clubs to know how much money we actually have, driving prices up.

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El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton

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Jul 5, 2003

39,713

Pattknull med Haksprut

• Jul 18, 2021

• #3

TB is a poker player, first rule is don’t disclose your hand.

 

PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004

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Hurst Green

• Jul 18, 2021

• #4

moggy said:

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

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Why is it frustrating?

Tony whole business dealings is undisclosed to joe public, his wealth, his business interests apart from betting and some idea of property.

 

Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!

Sep 1, 2012

32,165

Valhalla

• Jul 18, 2021

• #5

I don't think it matters. They are too often used as ammo against the club/player anyway.

 

WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003

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• Jul 18, 2021

• #6

TB's views on privacy with regards to financial information has, I believe, been of great benefit to BHA. Why change it

 

GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009

46,757

Gloucester

• Jul 18, 2021

• #7

Washie said:

But then it allows other clubs to know how much money we actually have, driving prices up.

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Other clubs will have a pretty good idea anyway, and drive prices up according to what they assume/guess we've got. It is frustrating to us fans though.

 

Swansman

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May 13, 2019

22,320

Sweden

• Jul 18, 2021

• #8

About 90% of all transfers got undisclosed fees. Its far from just Brighton. The exception is usually when one of the involved clubs have to reveal the fee, very rarely it is because they want to.

 

dazzer6666

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Burgess Hill

• Jul 18, 2021

• #9

PILTDOWN MAN said:

Why is it frustrating?

Tony whole business dealings is undisclosed to joe public, his wealth, his business interests apart from betting and some idea of property.

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This - it's a smart policy. Why do we need to know ?

 

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dennis

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Aug 1, 2007

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Cornwall

• Jul 18, 2021

• #10

I’ll ask the wife how it works, most of the stuff she buys is undisclosed

 

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PeterOut

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Aug 16, 2016

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• Jul 18, 2021

• #11

moggy said:

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

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...and this is yet another reason why I love NSC. Now and again / regularly an opinion or view will pop up that would never have entered my head - ever.

It rarely makes me think 'ooh, I agree with that', but it is facinating to be so regularly reminded that there are so many different views on the same situation.

Of course, those views are just plain wrong if they don't fit with my perceptions / prejudices

 

drew

Drew

Oct 3, 2006

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Burgess Hill

• Jul 18, 2021

• #12

moggy said:

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

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You are Michael Paine and are a nosey neighbour and I claim my reward!!1

 

El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton

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Jul 5, 2003

39,713

Pattknull med Haksprut

• Jul 18, 2021

• #13

Best way to find out a few is ask a football agent, they love a gossip!

 

brighton_tom

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Jul 23, 2008

4,848

• Jul 18, 2021

• #14

We have a professional poker players as a chairman, so its hardly surprising. Not exactly smart to show everyone your hand.

 

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Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016

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Oxton, Birkenhead

• Jul 18, 2021

• #15

moggy said:

I hate all the undisclosed fees
We as a club seem to continually have transfers in and out like this.
Just wished we were transparent and we knew who’s being sold for what and how much we’re paying
Really frustrating

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Why do you need to know ? I couldn’t care less about transfer fee levels. It only really matters to the accountants and the directors.

 

Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003

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Back in East Sussex

• Jul 18, 2021

• #16

Why do any clubs announce prices if they don't have to?

But I would have thought the figures would be available in the accounts in the end? If not, it would be liable for corruption, surely...

 

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Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016

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Oxton, Birkenhead

• Jul 18, 2021

• #17

Mustafa said:

As fans, it's interesting to know what we pay/receive for play transfers.

From a business perspective it makes little sense. Why disclose finances that may affect our future transfer negotiations when we don't have to?

Additionally - if fans know that we lose money on certain transfers, they may lose confidence in our transfer policy, which isn't helpful either.

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Particularly when cutting losses on a player eg Ali J. 100 % the right thing to do so no need for the club to put up with all the hindsight experts telling them they shouldn’t have bought him in the first place.

 

dazzer6666

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Burgess Hill

• Jul 18, 2021

• #18

Sorrel said:

Why do any clubs announce prices if they don't have to?

But I would have thought the figures would be available in the accounts in the end? If not, it would be liable for corruption, surely...

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All you’ll see there is a total though, not a player by player breakdown………

 

Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003

2,751

Back in East Sussex

• Jul 18, 2021

• #19

dazzer6666 said:

All you’ll see there is a total though, not a player by player breakdown………

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Ah, right. Then even more incentive for clubs to keep schtum about the actual amounts individually.

I guess the times when clubs don't is when they want to make clear that they are spending a lot.

 

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Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013

16,664

Fiveways

• Jul 18, 2021

• #20

PILTDOWN MAN said:

Why is it frustrating?

Tony whole business dealings is undisclosed to joe public, his wealth, his business interests apart from betting and some idea of property.

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People get frustrated nowadays. They expect and think they deserve accurate information immediately, and get frustrated when it's not forthcoming. It's the way of our current world.