But they are forming an opinion and explicitly/visibly so, which in an earlier post you said we should not have the right to do.
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taking the knee - what are your thoughts
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But they are forming an opinion and explicitly/visibly so, which in an earlier post you said we should not have the right to do.
Whether deliberately or not you're misunderstanding me and being obtuse. What I've said is unless you are the victim of racism then you have no right to tell those victims what they should or should not be doing to raise awareness. As long as it's peaceful. If you have not been a victim of racism but wish to stand along side those that have in their demonstration then you have every right. I can't make my opinion clearer than that.
- Jul 10, 2003
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I like it because it challenges and splits the racist community by making them think. (Do I want to boo and will or do I want to boo and daren't).
I do hope it's still going for the first full house at the Amex
I do hope it's still going for the first full house at the Amex
I don't think, after suggesting that I was being obtuse, that there's anything else to say here to be honest.
I genuinely don't understand the mentality of the people who boo it. If you have a problem with other people doing something that doesn't directly impact you what exactly is the problem with shutting up and letting other people do what they want for a few seconds?
Booing is an active statement of opposition to a stance for equality. Whatever mental gymnastics you want to perform to justify your booing, that is essentially what you're doing when you boil it down, and that's absolutely pathetic.
Booing is an active statement of opposition to a stance for equality. Whatever mental gymnastics you want to perform to justify your booing, that is essentially what you're doing when you boil it down, and that's absolutely pathetic.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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I think the problem is that players are scared to stop it. Groupthink is worrying at any level in society.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I like the booing. It's a good way of quickly seeing who is ****ing thick.
Just because someone is sick of having opinions rammed down their throats at every opportunity going , doesnt mean they are racist.
Charlies Shinpad
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God knows what I suspect the majority of people on this board would make of "Love Thy Neighbour" and early Alf Garnett stuff on TV. !!!
In those days it was humour and sadly these days it's racist
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In those days it was humour and sadly these days it's racist
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drew
Drew
There's not much the victims can do about it without some action by the perceived perpetrators. In the case of racism, white society needs to reform
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Drew
Alf Garnet was a caricature which was deliberately making racists look ignorant.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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very good point, excellent post.
Uh_huh_him
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Charlies Shinpad
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Exactly, but I bet you won't find any of the shows on iPlayer etc.
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BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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If the 'opinion' is "We won't tolerate racism" and people boo that then the inference is those booing do tolerate racism, isn't it?
For what it's worth, I don't fully know where I stand on this one. As I said on a previous page I think as a gesture it still has value because it's being talked about and debated. But it does come across as a bit rote now, as just another part of the match going experience like being crammed onto trains and swilling down flat lager on the concourses and groaning at Maupay missing another sitter.
I'm genuinely curious to see how long it all lasts when full crowds are allowed back in.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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There are very few 50 year old shows on IPlayer.
Neville's Breakfast
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That seems very much like a racist statement. I’m happy for the players to take the knee for as long as they wish but not happy to be called racist because of the colour of my skin.
I haven’t voted as there is no option for ‘if the players wish to take the knee they should do so.’
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If racism was taken seriously by the football authorities you wouldn’t need to take the knee to highlight the issue. Small fines and short bans will not help. Points deductions and season bans would help. Covering your mouth while talking should be a 3 match ban.
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Drew
Melodramatic. I'm not saying every white person is a racist and I think you know that. What I'm saying is that it is the institutions in this country where there is alleged institutional racism and it is those bodies which are predominantly controlled by white British males which need to change.