View Poll Results: Taking the knee - thoughts??

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  • Never agreed with it at football matches but wouldn't boo

    71 24.15%
  • Never agreed with it from the beginning and will boo

    19 6.46%
  • Love it and long may it continue

    81 27.55%
  • Agreed with the gesture to begin with but want it to stop now

    123 41.84%
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    Quote Originally Posted by cunning fergus View Post
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    Thanks, I understand the response.

    I said I accept racial inequalities exist, however, in the context that we now live in a multi ethnic country, in my view the outcomes of people’s lives are not solely driven by their race. We can generalise on outcomes by race of course, and at times that is needed for policy purposes, however race alone does not determine the destination of your life in a contemporary UK.

    As the education stats demonstrate within ethnic groups some groups are outperforming others, this is evidence that the education system is not biased disproportionately to favour whites. That has to be a hugely positive factor in the development of a fully functioning multi ethnic country. So yes, the HRC can collate its view based on their statistical analysis but overall the trajectory in this country’s race relations for the last 20 years has been good.

    The focus on race relations in the U.K. post George Floyd has undoubtedly been through a US lens, the fact that the kneeling at EPL matches only took place because of GF (as confirmed by Tyrone Mings on Weds night), means we are confronting the consequences of US police brutality at English football matches. Many people that are not racists can see through this, and that does not diminish the challenges this country has but we certainly don’t need post Trumpian US politics over here.

    Vandalism and extremism will not unify this country either, post our civil war in 1640s we have largely muddled through without violent extremism. If those that are frustrated by change think it will be delivered by vandalising Churchill or trying to burn flags on the cenotaph they are mad. I live in Bristol, pulling down Colston and renaming all the Colston roads, pubs, pulling out church windows, schools, has been hugely divisive.

    And for all this, I still think class (in whatever construct that applies today) is still a far bigger drag on outcomes, and for a far bigger population (of all ethnicities) of people. We can debate whether that means white working class is better off than black or Asian working class etc. however if we want it to be, class can be race neutral.

    That should be the ground those that want change should drive it from. Race won’t cut it.
    A day for celebration indeed! Racism in the U.K. is over. It’s been officially declared. Says middle class white man on football forum. Glory be.
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      A day for celebration indeed! Racism in the U.K. is over. It’s been officially declared. Says middle class white man on football forum. Glory be.
      And we are back to mentioning skin colour again...well done you.


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      If she knelt though the bullet would have missed
      Just another normal post from a totally normal guy.
      SUCK IT UP ...YOU MONG .....NOT FAKIN' BOVERED ........ANY MORE ... keep ignoring the context , going for the easy win ....you are a top class **** mate ....and that is it from moi....du bist blokken... ****in bell end..........enjoy spending yer pension ......and you know you won't ........i hope you are some sort of anarchist ...if you aint then you are ****ed....but u probably are anyway..... Sydney 21/07/19
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      The truth is often uncomfortable.


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      Change your pants then.
      SUCK IT UP ...YOU MONG .....NOT FAKIN' BOVERED ........ANY MORE ... keep ignoring the context , going for the easy win ....you are a top class **** mate ....and that is it from moi....du bist blokken... ****in bell end..........enjoy spending yer pension ......and you know you won't ........i hope you are some sort of anarchist ...if you aint then you are ****ed....but u probably are anyway..... Sydney 21/07/19
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      A day for celebration indeed! Racism in the U.K. is over. It’s been officially declared. Says middle class white man on football forum. Glory be.


      To quote the Rap duo Krept and Konan from their song “told you”

      Niggas talking like they're tough
      Better duck (Dickhead)
      We don't care about your ends
      We ain't scared of none of dem

      To be honest I couldn’t put it better myself..........
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      Good to see Italy and Turkey getting straight on with football, and no, i dont support the racists
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      A day for celebration indeed! Racism in the U.K. is over. It’s been officially declared. Says middle class white man on football forum. Glory be.
      One says it's over and another says it doesn't exist/can't see it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cunning fergus View Post
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      To quote the Rap duo Krept and Konan from their song “told you”

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      To be honest I couldn’t put it better myself..........
      Extraordinary.
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      Extraordinary.

      No offense but this ain't for them niggas, this is for them bitches
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      Am I watching Brighton or Barcelona?

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