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[Football] Ex Derby player wins £2.3m case against them













Dick Swiveller

Dick Swiveller

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Sep 9, 2011
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That was never going to stick. The other two would have no cause to complain but proving Keogh knew he was being driven by drunk drivers was the only way of making gross misconduct stick. Unless he was mocking Pascal's Cryuff turns in which case - throw the book at him.
 






Easy 10

Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Quite right too. The other two numbskulls (who were actually CONVICTED) got away with a club fine. They discriminated against Keogh due to his age and relative £ value to the club. Absolutely disgraceful to a player who had given them 7 years service, most as captain.

Derby are an utter shambles from top to bottom. They could (and would fully deserve) to be relegated due to their financial shenannigans that came about around the same time as Massive's, for much the same reasons. Morris selling the stadium to himself, as well as not factoring in player amortisation into their accounts, and in doing so dodging the £39m losses they were limited to under FFP.

I hope the EFL throw the book at them.
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

The Andy Naylor Fan Club

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Going by the end part of that story, am I right in thinking that they could still get a points deduction for this season and be relegated?
Ooh, what a palaver.
 




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dsr-burnley

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Easy 10 said:
Quite right too. The other two numbskulls (who were actually CONVICTED) got away with a club fine. They discriminated against Keogh due to his age and relative £ value to the club. Absolutely disgraceful to a player who had given them 7 years service, most as captain.

Derby are an utter shambles from top to bottom. They could (and would fully deserve) to be relegated due to their financial shenannigans that came about around the same time as Massive's, for much the same reasons. Morris selling the stadium to himself, as well as not factoring in player amortisation into their accounts, and in doing so dodging the £39m losses they were limited to under FFP.

I hope the EFL throw the book at them.
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If they had sacked all three, they might (I only say might) have had a chance of saying it was fair punishment. There is no way they could claim fair punishment for sacking the passenger and retaining the drivers.
 




Official Old Man

Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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To start with I'm thinking 'serves you right' but then I read that the two drivers, both over the limit, fled from the scene leaving Keogh unconscious. But they could still play football and so were merely fined by the club. Keogh, out of action for a year, was told to take a pay cut. He didn't and so they sacked him.
 




el punal

el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
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Easy 10 said:
Quite right too. The other two numbskulls (who were actually CONVICTED) got away with a club fine. They discriminated against Keogh due to his age and relative £ value to the club. Absolutely disgraceful to a player who had given them 7 years service, most as captain.

Derby are an utter shambles from top to bottom. They could (and would fully deserve) to be relegated due to their financial shenannigans that came about around the same time as Massive's, for much the same reasons. Morris selling the stadium to himself, as well as not factoring in player amortisation into their accounts, and in doing so dodging the £39m losses they were limited to under FFP.

I hope the EFL throw the book at them.
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Wasn’t there an incident, around the time we played at Derby in December 2015 and drew 2-2 (?), that Mel Morris stormed into their dressing at halftime and had a go at their players? Apart from transgressing the cardinal rule of NEVER getting involved with players and coaching staff during a match, he totally undermined the credibility of Paul Clement, the manager at the time.

Derby’s desperate bid to achieve promotion has resulted in them hiring and firing TWELVE managers in the last eight years. On that basis it is hardly surprising that they are now in a gigantic shit storm of their own making - and fully deserved too. :drink:
 


crodonilson

crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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A disgusting way to treat a club legend, he was a colossus in that Rams defence for many years and loved by the fans. I also understand he had opportunities to leave Derby for the EPL.
 


Deportivo Seagull

Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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I remember the good times said:
To start with I'm thinking 'serves you right' but then I read that the two drivers, both over the limit, fled from the scene leaving Keogh unconscious. But they could still play football and so were merely fined by the club. Keogh, out of action for a year, was told to take a pay cut. He didn't and so they sacked him.
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That is what is commonly known as a ‘***** trick’.


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Jolly Red Giant

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Congrats to Keogh - that is the way to screw a club that tries to scapegoat you.

And to rub it in - he is now playing with a club that finished in front of Derby this season.

Its also worth noting that there is no mention of the ruling on the BBC football website.
 




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Jolly Red Giant

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It’s tagged on the end of the main Derby story
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Keogh's successful case goes far beyond Derby - it has seriously clipped the wings of how clubs can treat players.

This is one of a series of examples about how the BBC (and Sky) have tried to row back on the impact of the protests against the ESL - there has been a major shifting of reporting away from the outlook of fans and players and back to propping up the billionaire owners of the clubs.
 


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Springal

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Jolly Red Giant said:
Congrats to Keogh - that is the way to screw a club that tries to scapegoat you.

And to rub it in - he is now playing with a club that finished in front of Derby this season.

Its also worth noting that there is no mention of the ruling on the BBC football website.
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Meh - I disagree. Club captain should know better than letting a 'team bonding' trip get out of control and more so getting into a car knowing the driver is drunk. I Think he was even curled up in the footwell was he not?

His actions and resulting injury made him unavailable for service for 12 months. Derby should have just put him on statutory sick pay

Not sure if it did happen or was offered, but if Keogh had any decency he would have offered to take a 50-75% pay cut while he got fit

Pro players have clauses in their contracts forbidding things like sky diving, skiing etc. I'd add getting into a car knowing the driver is drunk is probably more dangerous than those sports
 
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Weststander

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Chuffed about that.

Mel Morris targeted the player near the end of his career, who was so often despised by Derby fans at that time, the fall guy for losses.

Whilst opting for touchy-feely with the club's prize asset Tom Lawrence.
 


Weststander

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Jolly Red Giant said:
Keogh's successful case goes far beyond Derby - it has seriously clipped the wings of how clubs can treat players.

This is one of a series of examples about how the BBC (and Sky) have tried to row back on the impact of the protests against the ESL - there has been a major shifting of reporting away from the outlook of fans and players and back to propping up the billionaire owners of the clubs.
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Excellent post.

Spot on about the billionaire owners image in the media. Abramovich and Mansour have received praise very recently, for some bizarre reason excused for their furtive part in ESL.
 


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