[Film] 1991 a cinematic year without parallel.

Pint of Ale and a Burger · May 7, 2021

Baldseagull said:
I saw City on Fire in the 2000's sometime, so many scenes clearly influenced Tarantino in Reservoir dogs and other movies of his.

Yes city on fire was another good one and tarantino was definitely influenced by those Hong Kong films of the late eighties as well as the Shawscope and golden harvest movies of the 70s.
The Hong Kong actors and directors of the late eighties certainly had an impact on Hollywood throughout the 90s and beyond.
Even the action of John woo's hard boiled has never really been bested by Hollywood despite several efforts.
John wick in my opinion is Hollywood finally catching up with the level of stylised gunplay seen in hard boiled so it's taken them nearly 30 years which shows the quality of the Hong Kong film industry back then.
I think I may give a few of those films a watch this weekend see how they stand up to the modern stuff.

CHAPPERS · May 7, 2021

Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
If we're talking best year of the 90's for film, I'm going to chuck in 94 for consideration.

Leon, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Usual suspects, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Speed, Dumb and Dumber, Natural Born Killers, True Lies, Speed.

It was also a great year for albums too:

Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Blur - Parklife
Portisheasd - Dummy
Manics - The Holy Bible
Suede - Dog Man Star
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Nirvana - Unplugged in New york
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Nas - Illmatic
Green Day - Dookie
Weezer - The Blue Album
Soundgarden - Super Unknown
Notorius B.I.G - Ready to Die
And a load of others...

So 94 might be the greatest year ever for popular culture...

Can't argue with this. Speed is ****ing amazing.

Swansman · May 7, 2021

Gwylan said:
I have to agree - it's a very underwhelming list. I love the Coen brothers' work but Barton Fink is by far their dullest film.

I'd opt for 1974 as the standout year. Godfather II, Chinatown, The Parallax View, Alice doesn't Live Here Any More, Fear eats the Soul, The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 (the original), The Man with the Golden Gun (the best Moore Bond film), The Towering Inferno (one of the better disaster movies), Murder on the Orient Express and two of my absolute favourites - The Conversation and Badlands. To top it all, there are two Mel Brooks' films - Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein

Sid in the Sharknado said:
You're going to have to do a lot of work to convince me it's not Moonraker.

Any film with about a hundred people in yellow jumpsuits pretending to be in zero gravity by walking slowly is not just clearly the best Bond film, but a standout candidate for best film ever.

I could list all the ways it's gloriously, utterly bonkers, but I'd never reach the end. So I'll just highlight the scene in the middle where a women is eaten alive by dogs, which appears to have been sliced in from another film and just left in because nobody was paying attention. Somehow the complete and sudden shift in tone is simultaneously completely in the spirit of the batshit crazy nonsense that surrounds it.

Calling Dr. No. Also, calling Dr. No.

Stat Brother · May 7, 2021

CHAPPERS said:
Can't argue with this. Speed is ****ing amazing.

So good he named it twice.

keaton · May 7, 2021

I'm nominating 1995:
Toy Story
Seven
The Usual Suspects
Heat
La Haine
Die Hard 3
GoldenEye (first Bond for ages, last actually good one)
Casino
Trainspotting

Before Sunrise
Shallow Grave
Clueless
12 Monkeys
Fallen Angels
Friday
Get shorty

Swansman · May 7, 2021

90s = very good movie decade, decent music decade
70s= very good music decade, decent movie decade

Hard to single out specific years. My favorite movie (Smoke) was made in 95 though.

The 1980s both in terms of music and movies will remain in the 1980s, for whatever reason very little from that decade could be considered timeless.

Stat Brother · May 7, 2021

keaton said:
I'm nominating 1995:
Toy Story
Seven
The Usual Suspects
Heat
La Haine
Die Hard 3
GoldenEye (first Bond for ages, last actually good one)
Casino
Trainspotting

Before Sunrise
Shallow Grave
Clueless
12 Monkeys
Fallen Angels
Friday
Get shorty

You can't have Casino + Die Hard 3 and think you can 'win'. :lol:

keaton · May 7, 2021

Stat Brother said:
You can't have Casino + Die Hard 3 and think you can 'win'.

Die Hard 3 isn't a great Die Hard film but it's still better than most action films.

Lenny Rider · May 7, 2021

Stat Brother said:
In due deference to [MENTION=19800]lawros left foot[/MENTION] I loves his the thread idea.
So much so I'm gonna steal it and use it for something I can work with!!

The only draw back to 1991 is the UK film industry didn't produce much.
But judging by what was coming out of Hollywood, it was probably a good year to miss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_films_of_1991

In no particular order (beyond the top 2)

T2
Silence of The Lambs
Night on Earth
Point Break
Barton Fink
New Jack City
Boyz in the Hood
JFK
The Commitments
Bill & Ted Bogus Journey
Cape Fear
Thelma & Louise.

11 films that still hold there own today, and 2 Ollie Stone sprawling epic messes (if you inc The Doors bunkum).

https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1992

Plus another 25 underrated films:-

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/25-underrated-movies-of-1991/

But did you know that Paddington 2 has a higher aggregate/average Rotten Tomatoes score than Citizen Kane now making it one of the most critically acclaimed films ever?

From now on when talking about a film will we have to say "But its no Paddington 2"?

Harry Wilson's tackle · May 7, 2021

1991 was a lowpoint in my life. I haven't seen a single one of those in the OP's list and I've not even heard of 4 of them

Stat Brother · May 7, 2021

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
1991 was a lowpoint in my life. I haven't seen a single one of those in the OP's list and I've not even heard of 4 of them

That's a shame, I appear to have spent most of it sat in cinemas.

I've seen T2, Silence, Point Break & Bogus so many times I could write the script off the top of my head.

T2 is a 'desert Island discs' film - 30 years on and the effects still hold up.

I have fond memories of The Commitments, Barton Fink, NJC and to a lesser extent Boyz.
I'll have to revisit Thelma & Cape Fear.
Finally it's nice and comforting to have some bonkers-tonkers films from Stone.

As for Paddington 2 - That's a fantastic film.

If the Paddington's can get III on a par with I & II it will rival Toy Story as The Greatest Cinema Trilogy of all time.

Gwylan · May 7, 2021

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
1991 was a lowpoint in my life. I haven't seen a single one of those in the OP's list and I've not even heard of 4 of them

I've seen five and I'm not in a hurry to see any of them again. I went to the cinema a lot at that time too

Robinjakarta · May 7, 2021

Without parallel? 1939

Gone with the Wind
Stagecoach
Goodbye Mr Chips
Destry Rides Again
Mr Smith Goes to Washington
Wuthering Heights
The Wizard of Oz
The Roaring Twenties

blue-shifted · May 7, 2021

Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
If we're talking best year of the 90's for film, I'm going to chuck in 94 for consideration.

Leon, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Usual suspects, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Speed, Dumb and Dumber, Natural Born Killers, True Lies, Speed.

It was also a great year for albums too:

Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Blur - Parklife
Portisheasd - Dummy
Manics - The Holy Bible
Suede - Dog Man Star
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Nirvana - Unplugged in New york
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Nas - Illmatic
Green Day - Dookie
Weezer - The Blue Album
Soundgarden - Super Unknown
Notorius B.I.G - Ready to Die
And a load of others...

So 94 might be the greatest year ever for popular culture...

Easily the best list of films offered so far

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Garry Nelson's Left Foot · May 7, 2021

blue-shifted said:
Easily the best list of films offered so far

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Unfortunately it's a slightly incorrect list. The Usual Suspects was actually 95. It's still a pretty good list without it though.

Simster · May 7, 2021

Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
If we're talking best year of the 90's for film, I'm going to chuck in 94 for consideration.

Leon, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Usual suspects, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Speed, Dumb and Dumber, Natural Born Killers, True Lies, Speed.

It was also a great year for albums too:

Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Blur - Parklife
Portisheasd - Dummy
Manics - The Holy Bible
Suede - Dog Man Star
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Nirvana - Unplugged in New york
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Nas - Illmatic
Green Day - Dookie
Weezer - The Blue Album
Soundgarden - Super Unknown
Notorius B.I.G - Ready to Die
And a load of others...

So 94 might be the greatest year ever for popular culture...

I was seriously going to suggest 1994 myself! An absolute stand out year for so many reasons.

In a NSC "Popular Culture Year" world cup, I can't believe this wouldn't make the semis at least.

Sid in the Sharknado · May 7, 2021

Swansman said:
Calling Dr. No. Also, calling Dr. No.

Great play on words. Is that a play on words? I'm going to say it is.

If I can't remember what the villain was actually trying to achieve then I can't consider it a top bond film.

What's the point of a Bond villain who's not somehow convinced hundreds of people to wear yellow jumpsuits and help him kill the whole world's population? It's a plot so compelling they used it in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.

Some people of course, might count it against Moonraker that the villains plan is almost exactly the same as in the preceding film, but IN SPACE. Those people would be wrong.

Also it has the classic ending exchange between M and Q:
"What's Bond doing?"
"I think he's attempting re-entry sir"

It managed to comprehensively cheer me up after the match against Sheffield United the other day. I have to give it some credit if only for that.

Swansman · May 7, 2021

Sid in the Sharknado said:
Great play on words. Is that a play on words? I'm going to say it is.

If I can't remember what the villain was actually trying to achieve then I can't consider it a top bond film.

What's the point of a Bond villain who's not somehow convinced hundreds of people to wear yellow jumpsuits and help him kill the whole world's population? It's a plot so compelling they used it in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.

Some people of course, might count it against Moonraker that the villains plan is almost exactly the same as in the preceding film, but IN SPACE. Those people would be wrong.

Also it has the classic ending exchange between M and Q:
"What's Bond doing?"
"I think he's attempting re-entry sir"

It managed to comprehensively cheer me up after the match against Sheffield United the other day. I have to give it some credit if only for that.

Think its the same thing in YOLT (except not in space but in a vulcano) so that should be on your list as well.

Agree with the general idea though... in TND the villain is trying to run a newspaper or something, and the movie is pretty forgetable.

Sid in the Sharknado · May 7, 2021

Swansman said:
Think its the same thing in YOLT (except not in space but in a vulcano) so that should be on your list as well.

Agree with the general idea though... in TND the villain is trying to run a newspaper or something, and the movie is pretty forgetable.

It's not quite the same in YOLT (I had to look the actual plot up, it's been a while. The volcano part is obviously classic), but my main point was that they reused the same plot in consecutive films but substituted "New civilisation under the sea" with "New civilisation in space".

Actually the "start a war between superpowers for profit" plan accounts for about half of them now that you mention it. I'll always have a soft spot for TND for the remote control car bit, and the villain being played by Jonathan Pryce.

Goldeneye was a much better game than film.

Weststander · May 7, 2021

Robinjakarta said:
Without parallel? 1939

Gone with the Wind
Stagecoach
Goodbye Mr Chips
Destry Rides Again
Mr Smith Goes to Washington
Wuthering Heights
The Wizard of Oz
The Roaring Twenties

Some great movies in that list with screen legends.

Also that year:
Disney’s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Hound of the Baskervilles (with the brilliant Basil Rathbone & Nigel Bruce).

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