[Albion] Cometh the hour, cometh the club.

attila · Apr 20, 2021

Cometh the moment, cometh the club.
With our history, Brighton & Hove Albion FC is absolutely the right club to tell Chelsea:

'If you’re still in the ‘European Super League’ at 8pm tonight, we’re not playing you. And we call on all other Premier League clubs to adopt the same stance and for the Premier League to expel any club still in the competition at the time of their next planned fixture.'

I would predict near universal backing for that stance from fans, clubs, media...in fact anyone who loves football.
This nonsense needs wiping out, right now. Hats off to the Germans for telling them to stuff it. Come on BHAFC, remember our history and stand up for the fans. Not just ours - everyone’s, especially those of the clubs involved who are as outraged as we are.

Napper · Apr 20, 2021

Things like that would just make them push ahead their plans quicker.

The only thing that will get them on board is money ( and lots of it ) unfortunately

Lenny Rider · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
Cometh the moment, cometh the club.
With our history, Brighton & Hove Albion FC is absolutely the right club to tell Chelsea:

'If you’re still in the ‘European Super League’ at 8pm tonight, we’re not playing you. And we call on all other Premier League clubs to adopt the same stance and for the Premier League to expel any club still in the competition at the time of their next planned fixture.'

I would predict near universal backing for that stance from fans, clubs, media...in fact anyone who loves football.
This nonsense needs wiping out, right now. Hats off to the Germans for telling them to stuff it. Come on BHAFC, remember our history and stand up for the fans. Not just ours - everyone’s, especially those of the clubs involved who are as outraged as we are.

Loving the sentiment old mate, however I think you'll find that if we fail to fufil a fixture its us that's gets kicked out of the EPL.

Frankly I want them to go, but a huge caveat to that is the players left behind realise that the ground rules have changed, and contracts and wages will have to be renegotiated so that all the remaining clubs actually cut their cloth accordingly for a Post football world without the 'Super Six'.

attila · Apr 20, 2021

Lenny Rider said:
Loving the sentiment old mate, however I think you'll find that if we fail to fufil a fixture its us that's gets kicked out of the EPL.

Frankly I want them to go, but a huge caveat to that is the players left behind realise that the ground rules have changed, and contracts and wages will have to be renegotiated so that all the remaining clubs actually cut their cloth accordingly for a Post football world without the 'Super Six'.

Why should the fans of those clubs be forced into some plastic league at the behest of some plutocrat?
We took that risk of points deductions in 1997 with pitch invasions etc and the resultant furore brought our plight into the public eye like nothing else.
And if the PL kicked us out for actually making a stand instead of just moaning about it the rest of the football world (and even, so it seems, the government, though I don't trust them one inch) would hit the roof.

Of course,I don't think for a moment it will happen.
The pandemic brought all this on, of course. Once the plutocrats saw that people still watched games with plastic fan noise we became even more completely irrelevant than we were before to them.

And that is contemptible.
Still, if this new league does happen, from what I am hearing non league football in London, Manchester and Liverpool will get a lot more support - and the PL will become a much more level playing field.
But it would still be an absolute tragedy for football.
Hope you're well, Harty.

Swansman · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
Cometh the moment, cometh the club.
With our history, Brighton & Hove Albion FC is absolutely the right club to tell Chelsea:

'If you’re still in the ‘European Super League’ at 8pm tonight, we’re not playing you. And we call on all other Premier League clubs to adopt the same stance and for the Premier League to expel any club still in the competition at the time of their next planned fixture.'

I would predict near universal backing for that stance from fans, clubs, media...in fact anyone who loves football.
This nonsense needs wiping out, right now. Hats off to the Germans for telling them to stuff it. Come on BHAFC, remember our history and stand up for the fans. Not just ours - everyone’s, especially those of the clubs involved who are as outraged as we are.

It would be nice. Wont happen though.

Bry Nylon · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
The pandemic brought all this on, of course. Once the plutocrats saw that people still watched games with plastic fan noise we became even more completely irrelevant than we were before to them.

There's a certain irony that the clamour for PL football to continue whilst everything else was mothballed has been instrumental in effectively destroying football.

Hotchilidog · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
Cometh the moment, cometh the club.
With our history, Brighton & Hove Albion FC is absolutely the right club to tell Chelsea:

'If you’re still in the ‘European Super League’ at 8pm tonight, we’re not playing you. And we call on all other Premier League clubs to adopt the same stance and for the Premier League to expel any club still in the competition at the time of their next planned fixture.'

I would predict near universal backing for that stance from fans, clubs, media...in fact anyone who loves football.
This nonsense needs wiping out, right now. Hats off to the Germans for telling them to stuff it. Come on BHAFC, remember our history and stand up for the fans. Not just ours - everyone’s, especially those of the clubs involved who are as outraged as we are.

That discussion should happen amongst the meeting of the 14. The action should be collective not individual.

I'm happy for tonight to go ahead and for us stuff them.

The six need punishing and punishing now. The facts do however need to be known. If it's only a letter of intent, which can be withdrawn, then points deductions possible relegation, if they back down. If they have signed binding contracts and are legally bound to compete in the ESL, then EPL should expel them, no ifs, no buts and no chuffing coconuts.

wellquickwoody · Apr 20, 2021

Napper said:
Things like that would just make them push ahead their plans quicker.

The only thing that will get them on board is money ( and lots of it ) unfortunately

To me it is not about getting them on board, it is getting them to feck off ASAP. The dirty six will leave one day anyway, let’s not let them have double the income for five years before doing so.

*Gullsworth* · Apr 20, 2021

wellquickwoody said:
To me it is not about getting them on board, it is getting them to feck off ASAP. The dirty six will leave one day anyway, let’s not let them have double the income for five years before doing so.

As sad as it is i think you are correct. They should be given the option of staying or going....now. That will test the resolve of a few of the dirty six if not all. Any team that didnt issue a statement that they want to be in The Premier league next season under PL rules should be expelled ASAP no talks or exceptions. See how many would go and move on.

Charity Shield 1910 · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
Why should the fans of those clubs be forced into some plastic league at the behest of some plutocrat?
We took that risk of points deductions in 1997 with pitch invasions etc and the resultant furore brought our plight into the public eye like nothing else.
And if the PL kicked us out for actually making a stand instead of just moaning about it the rest of the football world (and even, so it seems, the government, though I don't trust them one inch) would hit the roof.

Of course,I don't think for a moment it will happen.
The pandemic brought all this on, of course. Once the plutocrats saw that people still watched games with plastic fan noise we became even more completely irrelevant than we were before to them.

And that is contemptible.
Still, if this new league does happen, from what I am hearing non league football in London, Manchester and Liverpool will get a lot more support - and the PL will become a much more level playing field.
But it would still be an absolute tragedy for football.
Hope you're well, Harty.

Attilla/ Harty - I had my two penneth on another thread. But just a request for you and Harty to get together for a Gulls Eye Special Edition (any excuse to relive my youth and read a Gulls Eye again). Attilla, can you get the violin out aka Southend (I think) at home all those years ago. The best of times, the worst of times.

Charity Shield 1910 · Apr 20, 2021

Lenny Rider said:
Loving the sentiment old mate, however I think you'll find that if we fail to fufil a fixture its us that's gets kicked out of the EPL.

Frankly I want them to go, but a huge caveat to that is the players left behind realise that the ground rules have changed, and contracts and wages will have to be renegotiated so that all the remaining clubs actually cut their cloth accordingly for a Post football world without the 'Super Six'.

Attilla/ Harty - I had my two penneth on another thread. But just a request for you and Harty to get together for a Gulls Eye Special Edition (any excuse to relive my youth and read a Gulls Eye again). Attilla, can you get the violin out aka Southend (I think) at home all those years ago. The best of times, the worst of times.

Badger Boy · Apr 20, 2021

It's a nice fantasy, but in reality it's not going to happen and it shouldn't happen. Let football be played on the pitch. I'm sure we'll make a statement of our position on it soon enough and that's how it should proceed.

Seasidesage · Apr 20, 2021

This season needs to be finished its too far gone not to be. But it should be a condition of membership of the PL and european competition that you renounce the ESL. If you see that as your future then off you go. We'd have to renegotiate the tv deal etc but so be it. They will have to get their league up and running find refs, sponsors and a tv deal with about two months notice. Lets see how that works out...

An active campaign against the sponsors of those clubs plus a cancellation of the registration of the affected players contracts may also concentrate the mind.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Apr 20, 2021

The 14 Non Big Six need to take a firm collective stance today and ALL refuse to play the Snide Six, starting next season. Anything less will be a further betrayal of the fans

Hamilton · Apr 20, 2021

attila said:
Cometh the moment, cometh the club.
With our history, Brighton & Hove Albion FC is absolutely the right club to tell Chelsea:

'If you’re still in the ‘European Super League’ at 8pm tonight, we’re not playing you. And we call on all other Premier League clubs to adopt the same stance and for the Premier League to expel any club still in the competition at the time of their next planned fixture.'

I would predict near universal backing for that stance from fans, clubs, media...in fact anyone who loves football.
This nonsense needs wiping out, right now. Hats off to the Germans for telling them to stuff it. Come on BHAFC, remember our history and stand up for the fans. Not just ours - everyone’s, especially those of the clubs involved who are as outraged as we are.

Agree with your sentiment, but next week when this ESL thing is abandoned - and we are 3 points down and Fulham have won again - then this place will be a binfest once more!

Can we just let the other 14 kick 'em into touch for now?

Chicken Run · Apr 20, 2021

Hamilton said:
Agree with your sentiment, but next week when this ESL thing is abandoned - are we are 3 points down and Fulham have won again - then this place will be a binfest once more!

Can we just let the other 14 kick 'em into touch for now?

Totally agree [emoji106]

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ConfusedGloryHunter · Apr 20, 2021

Bit OTT for me. If the ESL goes ahead and the other 14 cave in and allow ESL clubs in the EPL next season then that would be the time for this sort of thing.

Hamilton · Apr 20, 2021

If the ESL goes ahead and the Big Six successfully go through the courts to secure their place in the Premier League, then perhaps the other 14 can leave the Premier League and form a new league structure along with the other 72 football league clubs and leave the Big Six to play themselves.

Uh_huh_him · Apr 20, 2021

I believe the other 14 are meeting today to agree what is to be done.

The correct approach is for the clubs to vote to kick them out of the competition if they fail to revoke this plan.

Hamilton · Apr 20, 2021

Uh_huh_him said:
I believe the other 14 are meeting today to agree what is to be done.

The correct approach is for the clubs to vote to kick them out of the competition if they fail to revoke this plan.

I think they should wait a little. Just say, it is unacceptable and leave it at that.

It's time for the owners of the Big 6 to actually say something.

Get them out of their shadows and make them speak. They have already made an error - let them make more or apologise.

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