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[Travel] Bailif advice needed



Garage_Doors

Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,789
Brighton
Psychobilly freakout said:
My advice is
1: never answer the phone to a number you don’t know, if it’s that important they will leave a message.
I google every number I don’t know, read reviews and 99.99% of the time I then block the number.
2: never pay anything unless you have a paper copy posted to your address, a text or phone call is not proof you owe anything.
3: never seek advice on a social media web site for football, like I did several years ago :lolol:
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"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
I hear this a lot these days that people are now afraid to to talk to people and rather hide behind a message or email.
Just because the number is not in your phone does not man it might not be urgent or important.
I get many unknown calls a day, some are not important so i hang up other are not, i'm still in control of who i'm taking to rather than running scared each time the phone rings.
What happens if a loved one has just been mugged / robbed / hurt in an accident and someone is trying to contact you, f***'em eh, let them leave a message it can wait.
 




BN9 BHA

BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
NSC Patron
Jul 14, 2013
21,522
Newhaven
Shropshire Seagull said:
Wardens? That's so last century!
These things are all managed by camera on entry [time of arrival], camera on exit [time of departure] and number plate recognition - then matched to the ticket your purchased [or didn't].
No need for wardens anymore ...
Fine issue process is almost fully automated.
But as [MENTION=18265]LadySeagull[/MENTION] will say, rule one is never tell them who was driving as parking fines are a drivers offence, not the vehicle owner.
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You live in Shropshire, I live in Sussex, we have wardens here as I have mentioned in my post.
 


Iggle Piggle

Iggle Piggle

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2010
5,315
Garage_Doors said:
"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
I hear this a lot these days that people are now afraid to to talk to people and rather hide behind a message or email.
Just because the number is not in your phone does not man it might not be urgent or important.
I get many unknown calls a day, some are not important so i hang up other are not, i'm still in control of who i'm taking to rather than running scared each time the phone rings.
What happens if a loved one has just been mugged / robbed / hurt in an accident and someone is trying to contact you, f***'em eh, let them leave a message it can wait.
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Most of my loved ones are younger than me. If they were hurt in an accident, I'd most likely find out about it on Instagram before they picked up the blower.
 


BN9 BHA

BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
NSC Patron
Jul 14, 2013
21,522
Newhaven
Garage_Doors said:
"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
I hear this a lot these days that people are now afraid to to talk to people and rather hide behind a message or email.
Just because the number is not in your phone does not man it might not be urgent or important.
I get many unknown calls a day, some are not important so i hang up other are not, i'm still in control of who i'm taking to rather than running scared each time the phone rings.
What happens if a loved one has just been mugged / robbed / hurt in an accident and someone is trying to contact you, f***'em eh, let them leave a message it can wait.
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You’re one of those people that has a phone permanently in your hand, even in the toilet :)
 


Psychobilly freakout

Psychobilly freakout

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
22,977
Brighton factually.....
Garage_Doors said:
"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
I hear this a lot these days that people are now afraid to to talk to people and rather hide behind a message or email.
Just because the number is not in your phone does not man it might not be urgent or important.
I get many unknown calls a day, some are not important so i hang up other are not, i'm still in control of who i'm taking to rather than running scared each time the phone rings.
What happens if a loved one has just been mugged / robbed / hurt in an accident and someone is trying to contact you, f***'em eh, let them leave a message it can wait.
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Takes seconds to google a number, and return a call.

Quite simply my phone, my choice.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,467
The Fatherland
Garage_Doors said:
"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
I hear this a lot these days that people are now afraid to to talk to people and rather hide behind a message or email.
Just because the number is not in your phone does not man it might not be urgent or important.
I get many unknown calls a day, some are not important so i hang up other are not, i'm still in control of who i'm taking to rather than running scared each time the phone rings.
What happens if a loved one has just been mugged / robbed / hurt in an accident and someone is trying to contact you, f***'em eh, let them leave a message it can wait.
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My phone is always on silent and I rarely answer it to anyone. Over the years everyone has got to know this and messages me. We all have to make decisions about how we engage and interact with communication...my approach works for me.

Regarding your last point, conversely if a friend or family member did call, I’d pick up as it’s clearly an emergency and not them wanting to chat about something banal. That said, they’d most likely message and ask me to call...which has happened.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,467
The Fatherland
Garage_Doors said:
"never answer the phone to a number you don’t know" ?? you sound like a teenager !
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The wife often says this to me as well. Usually it’s related to me sulking and/or being stroppy and pedantic about something though.
 


Justice

Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
18,586
Born In Shoreham
I have three numbers diverted to my mobile and answer all calls, potential customers these days tend not to leave a message and quickly move on to the next listing on google.
 




smeariestbat

smeariestbat

New member
May 5, 2012
1,731
Highfields Seagull said:
But the Council hasn't sold the debt has it? It issued a PCN and you didn't pay it, so it took the matter to court and obtained a court order for the debt. The bailiffs are appointed by the court to recover the debt set out in the court order - and the bailiffs' costs fall to the debtor.
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I’m sorry. You appear to have mistaken this thread for one that accepts facts and common sense. Begone!
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
49,868
Faversham
Herr Tubthumper said:
My phone is always on silent and I rarely answer it to anyone. Over the years everyone has got to know this and messages me. We all have to make decisions about how we engage and interact with communication...my approach works for me.

Regarding your last point, conversely if a friend or family member did call, I’d pick up as it’s clearly an emergency and not them wanting to chat about something banal. That said, they’d most likely message and ask me to call...which has happened.
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Mrs T tells me specifically to take my phone on the rare occasions she thinks she may need to call me. Otherwise it is on and off the charger in the kitchen, out of sight and out of mind. When it rings (about once a month) I don't hear it, or if I do heart it I assume it's someone else's phone ringing. Apparently I have over 1000 unread messages from what'sapp, whatever that is. :eek: (Given their likely provenance perhaps [MENTION=37530]monty uk[/MENTION] can advise me whether I should bother reading them? ??? :wink:)
 


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monty uk

Well-known member
Sep 25, 2018
631
Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Mrs T tells me specifically to take my phone on the rare occasions she thinks she may need to call me. Otherwise it is on and off the charger in the kitchen, out of sight and out of mind. When it rings (about once a month) I don't hear it, or if I do heart it I assume it's someone else's phone ringing. Apparently I have over 1000 unread messages from what'sapp, whatever that is. :eek: (Given their likely provenance perhaps [MENTION=37530]monty uk[/MENTION] can advise me whether I should bother reading them? ??? :wink:)
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Absolutely not. Mostly irrelevant babble, dick waving and non-football fans discussing football - is there anything worse that that?

No change over half a century.

Straight into the recycle bin. Life's too short - is there and emoji for that?
 














L

LadySeagull

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2011
1,237
Portslade
Shropshire Seagull said:
Wardens? That's so last century!
These things are all managed by camera on entry [time of arrival], camera on exit [time of departure] and number plate recognition - then matched to the ticket your purchased [or didn't].
No need for wardens anymore ...
Fine issue process is almost fully automated.
But as [MENTION=18265]LadySeagull[/MENTION] will say, rule one is never tell them who was driving as parking fines are a drivers offence, not the vehicle owner.
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That's a description of a private parking company's operation in a retail park.

They use and abuse ANPR and you are best not saying who was driving in any appeal because lots of the firms choose not to use the wording that they could use, to hold the registered keeper liable (e.g. Tesco's parking firm doesn't, so you can always win by not saying who was driving).

Councils are different and you can't appeal by not saying who was driving. Councils are also (quite rightly because the systems are shite and set up to fail consumers) not allowed to use ANPR/CCTV for parking enforcement except in places where it is dangerous, like school crossings and red routes. So you will never see ANPR in a Council car park but you will see 'wardens' (CEOs).

Local Authorities using ANPR was banned in the Deregulation Act in 2015 and the British Parking Association just tried and failed to get the Government to change their minds this past few months. The Government were having none of it. Seems they have wised up since their previous dealings with the BPA in 2012 when the Trade Body walked all of the Dept for Transport and no-one questioned their statistics and the BPA got the prize of 'keeper liability' for private parking firms, but that's another story.

This case is about a Local Authority PCN that has been ignored until bailiff stage, probably due to only updating a driving licence and not updating the registered address of a vehicle when the OP moved.

Check your V5C (logbook) address is right, NSC posters, because this is very common. Loads of people get this sort of issue or CCJs from private parking firms, and some people even miss a Police NIP for Speeding and get into hot water for that later on, all due to not changing their logbooks.

Not updating your V5C address is actually an offence. Too many people think sending off their driving licence changes everything at the DVLA. Nope.
 


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