[Football] Would you support Offside Rule being scrapped ?

Live by the sea · Mar 29, 2021

Ajax / AC Milan & Dutch superstar Marco Van Basten was quoted last week as saying he supports scrapping the offside rule in football as it would make it more interesting .

Do you agree ?

Clarification- Nothing to do with VAR , simply doing away with the offside rule totally .

Uh_huh_him · Mar 29, 2021

nope. it would turn football into a high scoring game like basketball, and take away most of the games appeal.

Hotchilidog · Mar 29, 2021

I would scrap it as it stands now. Offside should not be a marginal call, it should be a clear one. The attacker should be clearly ahead of the defender none of this big toe, shoulder nonsense we have now.

Live by the sea · Mar 29, 2021

Just for clarification- this thread is Not about VAR ( that’s previously been discussed) it’s simply should we get rid of the offside rule totally as Van Basten has suggested .

AmexRuislip · Mar 29, 2021

Waiting for VAR........

Perfidious Albion · Mar 29, 2021

It is too radical to scrap it entirely. I would however support a change that said that clear daylight should be between the two players , not the silly slide rule decisions.

crodonilson · Mar 29, 2021

Without seeing how it would work in practice I wouldn't know, but why not try it in one of the minor competitions like the EFL Trophy for a season? What's the worst that can happen??

Whist not a VAR thread, given how VAR now adjudicates to the finest of margins on offside calls the rule certainly needs tweaking to favor attacking sides.

Psychobilly freakout · Mar 29, 2021

Live by the sea said:
Ajax / AC Milan & Dutch superstar Marco Van Basten was quoted last week as saying he supports scrapping the offside rule in football as it would make it more interesting.

So would having a large wheel with all the players pictures on the side of the pitch and a random fan from the stands spins the wheel every 15 minutes and whoevers picture the arrow lands on gets blindfolded for 15 minutes and so on.

(I did initially think they should be shot)

Keith Patel · Mar 29, 2021

Stupid idea, no one wants to watch games that finish 15-17 or something, we'd completely lose the enjoyment of scoring goals.

SeagullinExile · Mar 29, 2021

Offside should only count if it's a part of the body that you can score with. Scrapping it would destroy the game.

LamieRobertson · Mar 29, 2021

No....even though my favourite position when young was ‘goal hanger’

Stat Brother · Mar 29, 2021

Perfidious Albion said:
It is too radical to scrap it entirely. I would however support a change that said that clear daylight should be between the two players , not the silly slide rule decisions.

But clear daylight would still come down to silly slide rule decisions.

blue-shifted · Mar 29, 2021

I think trial it.

The most common arguments for having the offside rule. "That it would just encourage full backs to continually boot it up to 6 foot 8 target men stood on the oppo 6 yard box to bully the keeper", probably would have been justified in the 1980s, but aren't now.

The "hoof and head" strategy would result in a lot of possession being lost and the workload of the midfields to continually get up and back would soon become unmanageable.

It would of course lead to a more stretched game, with greater emphasis on physical fitness. There would be larger spaces in midfield and gamers would "open up" to a much greater degree.

To me, the advantage would be add increase the simplicity of the game. The more you add simplicity, the more you add to accessibility. Also that it reduces the arbitrariness of whether someone is narrowly offside or not. When it comes down to it, who cares if someone is very slightly offside. We watch football to see which team has the greater set of skills.

It would surely increase the number of goals, but not drastically. It will mean more 3-2's that 7-4's

I just have a feeling that if it was just binned, we'd look back and wonder why we persisted with it for all those years

studio150 · Mar 29, 2021

Been tested before in the Watneys Cup and all you need to know is that the change was never taken forward.

m@goo · Mar 29, 2021

As will happen hopefully, they should only be considered off side if it's a part of the body that can be scored with. If anywhere between your shoulder and finger tip is in an off side position then it doesn't count as off side.

BNthree · Mar 29, 2021

Stat Brother said:
But clear daylight would still come down to silly slide rule decisions.

Exactly: was it "clear daylight" or just almost clear daylight? Whatever the rule is there will still be borderline calls that will need to be resolved.

Stat Brother · Mar 29, 2021

BNthree said:
Exactly: was it "clear daylight" or just almost clear daylight? Whatever the rule is there will still be borderline calls that will need to be resolved.

T'is how we got to VAR in the first place.

Changing the positions won't change the system.

"You can clearly see the attackers heel is behind the defenders knee - we need some kind of video assistance referee to help with these marginal decisions".

ManxSeagull · Mar 29, 2021

I have said for years that the offside line should moved from the halfway line to closer to the goal, similar to a Subutteo pitch (maybe not that close though).

It would stop teams playing such a high line and free up space in the middle of the park. There would still be space (although smaller) to play a ball over the top or into the channels.

If the defending team wanted to push players higher it would at their own risk.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Mar 29, 2021

They actually did an experimental close season competition that did away with the offside rule up in Scotland when I were a nipper. Think it might have been called the Dryborough Cup or similar. Might even have a programme from one of the games. Can't remember a single thing about it tho. Don't think they ever repeated the experiment so presumably wasn't the greatest success

DavidRyder · Mar 29, 2021

It would turn it into a 10 v 10 game - plus the one player each side that would spend the game standing a yard from the goal, waiting for a big hoof in his direction.

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