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[Albion] Potter's tactics against Newcastle?



Change at Barnham

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If anyone finds an article or podcast explaining the wizardry that Potter performed with his tactics then please share it.

Myself, Steve Bruce and the Newcastle defence are still trying to work it out.

MOTD showed a graphic of a few occasions when Welbeck was wide left, Maupay was wide right, with Moder arriving late in the middle.
It was clearly a masterclass but it has still left me struggling to understand what the hell was happening and who was supposed to be doing what.

One highlight of the evening was when Dubravka took time to get treatment and the camera focused on Steve Bruce, Graeme Jones and the Newcastle players trying to fathom out who should be doing what.
 




SeagullinExile

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We basically played with just three defenders. No wonder Bruce got confused. Master class from Potter.
 




The Wizard

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It was good to see him be proactive with his team selection, we knew Newcastle would just try to park the bus so we played a much more attacking system than usual, I know Moder/Gross were meant to be wing backs but they played more like wide midfielders or wingers most of the time because Newcastle are so negative we could safely play that way.
 




SeagullinExile

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Amazing that we bring in a player who has never played left wing back before, and within minutes he's cropping up as our centre forward.

It's madness I tell ya.

Not sure he even played wing back tbh! Was kind of an inverted winger...I think! Bombing into the space made when Welbeck went wide, terrific stuff.
 


vagabond

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Match of the day for once did quite a nice break down or our tactics.

Having Maupay and Welbeck wide but cutting in left space for Tross and others like Moder to run into.

Quite original.
 


brighton_tom

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What formation were we even playing? It seemed so fluid & changing every 10 minutes. Bruce must have been so confused, and each time he figured out what was going on it then changes again.
 






Tom Bombadil

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Bruce should have known because it was what he was doing a few weeks ago.i thought it was split strikers, with Trossard at number ten coming from a depper lying position. Difference to Bruce the dinosaur was that our wider midfielders were also encouraged to run through the gaps ahead of Maupay and Welbeck. I also thought it wasnt really wingbacks and more of an orthodox 4 man midfield. But then again I could be completely wrong.
 


gazingdown

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Feb 26, 2011
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Welbeck/Maupay close/narrow when ball is with our defence.
Central defenders therefore mark them
Then as we move up the pitch, the go out wide.
Central defenders either leave them (so W/M have space and can receive ball).
If central defenders follow/mark them, that creates space in middle for Gross/Moder who cut in. Then Newcastle have to work out who to mark Gross/Moder.
I suspect a better oppo/manager would have gone to 3 a the back (with assisting wing backs to mark Welb/Maupay) to deal with this, 4 at the back would not work well.
 




Johnny RoastBeef

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It was like we had a Dirk Kyut on each wing, playing in that wide striker role he once played for Liverpool.
 


Bry Nylon

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If anyone finds an article or podcast explaining the wizardry that Potter performed with his tactics then please share it.

Myself, Steve Bruce and the Newcastle defence are still trying to work it out.

... Welbeck was wide left, Maupay was wide right, with Moder arriving late in the middle.

It was clearly a masterclass but it has still left me struggling to understand what the hell was happening and who was supposed to be doing what.

By my powers of deduction, I think I may have worked it out; Welbeck was wide left, Maupay was wide right, with Moder arriving late in the middle.

:thumbsup:
 


Coach_Carter_92

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It reminded me of small sided games, where players are given positions but have so much freedom to drift and pop up wherever they want when we have possession.
 




Stat Brother

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As said elsewhere I think it was something like:-

Sanchez in goal.

Dunk centre back

Bissouma deep lying centre midfield.

Now it gets a bit fuzzy.

Veltman and White - centre/wing back inside midfielders.

Groß and Moder inside forwards, from a wing back position.

Lallana halfway to box.

Wellbeck and Maupay winger centre forwards.

Trossard deep lying false inside centre forward.


All fairly straight forward. :facepalm:
 


redoubtable seagull

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I think the world and his dog knew Bruce would set them up defensively in a 4,3,3 and their approach would be ridiculously cautious, which probably helped with GP’s planning
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Match of the day for once did quite a nice break down or our tactics.

Having Maupay and Welbeck wide but cutting in left space for Tross and others like Moder to run into.

Quite original.

Bruce just didn't know how to deal with that
 


KZNSeagull

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Not sure why people are so hung up on systems, but to my untrained eye it was a 3 4 1 2 without a central striker, the 2 strikers were told to play wide to pull their central defenders apart leaving space for the Number 10 (Tross) and the wide midfielders (Gross and Moder) to exploit the space in the middle, whilst nullifying the 3 Newcastle midfielders using a high, almost mob like press when we didn't have the ball.

Call it what you like. I thought it was great but it would probably only work against a bunch of overpaid donkeys intent on doing sweet fa with the ball. So for Newcastle, it was perfect.
 




Icy Gull

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Newcastle set up looked familiar to me :wink:
 


osgood

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Apr 17, 2011
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As said elsewhere I think it was something like:-

Sanchez in goal.

Dunk centre back

Bissouma deep lying centre midfield.

Now it gets a bit fuzzy.

Veltman and White - centre/wing back inside midfielders.

Groß and Moder inside forwards, from a wing back position.

Lallana halfway to box.

Wellbeck and Maupay winger centre forwards.

Trossard deep lying false inside centre forward.


All fairly straight forward. :facepalm:

Yes that seems about right to me , in future we can just refer to it as the old 1-1-1-2-2-1-1-2 ! lol
 



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