[Other Sport] One for the England rugby fans- Jones In or Out?

Icy Gull · Mar 20, 2021

Out out out for me. He has taken us backwards this season and today’s performance is one embarrassment too far. 3 defeats in the Six Nations, all totally deserved. We are now shitehouse and totally mullered, outplayed and outthought today by a manager sacked by England

Get the Aussie OUT,

maltaseagull · Mar 20, 2021

Icy Gull said:
Out out out for me. He has taken us backwards this season and today’s performance is one embarrassment too far. 3 defeats in the Six Nations, all totally deserved. We are now shitehouse and totally mullered, outplayed and outthought today by a manager sacked by England

Get the Aussie OUT,

This. Has failed to get any sort of plan B in the side. Today at half time the pundits said England needed to stop box kicking, stop giving away penalties.
Within minutes, we did both.

Ireland were so much better all over the pitch and England's constant gifting penalties away is pathetic.

There is no hope of winning the world cup playing like this.

The Fits · Mar 20, 2021

Things need freshening up and we need to sort out 2, 8, 9, 10, 12- desperately predicable and turgid by the decision makers so often.
Out.

maltaseagull · Mar 20, 2021

The Fits said:
Things need freshening up and we need to sort out 2, 8, 9, 10, 12- desperately predicable and turgid by the decision makers so often.
Out.

Looking at the penalty count 1 needs a change too!

warsaw · Mar 20, 2021

Short of ideas, sloppy, stale, giving away penalties one after the other, going through the motions, going backwards. We have world class players who look too comfortable
now. why is that? Time for a change

Eeyore · Mar 20, 2021

Why would we sack one of the best coaches in the world ?

England are having a bad season in an unusual time.

So what ? It happens.

Even after all these years the blind philosophy of instant gratification through the imaginary silver bullet just won't go away.

*sighs*

Icy Gull · Mar 20, 2021

Brighton Lines said:
Why would we sack one of the best coaches in the world ?

England are having a bad season in an unusual time.

So what ? It happens.

Even after all these years the blind philosophy of instant gratification through the imaginary silver bullet just won't go away.

*sighs*

We have been gash and I mean properly gash in virtually every game since the WC Final. Against France is the only really good game imo.

Hardly knee jerk to want a change with how far we’ve fallen short with very talented players.

A new coach will need two years, let’s do it

I am a patient bugger, I haven’t wavered from Potter In because I can see progress. I only see us going backwards under Jones

Swansman · Mar 20, 2021

Out. Feck that clueless ****. Steve/Dave/John Jones out, some other cricket individual in.

rippleman · Mar 20, 2021

OUT - forget not turning up in the WC final and being pretty crap ever since, not picking Marcus Smith should see him sacked

Guinness Boy · Mar 20, 2021

I think we should take the positives and learn from them.

Lethargic · Mar 20, 2021

Out, we are an undisciplined rabble going backwards crazy with the large pool of talent available.

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Icy Gull · Mar 20, 2021

I see we have at least one pisstaking IN ....from a Welsh fan &#55357;&#56834;

Eeyore · Mar 20, 2021

Icy Gull said:
We have been gash and I mean properly gash in virtually every game since the WC Final. Against France is the only really good game imo.

Hardly knee jerk to want a change with how far we’ve fallen short with very talented players.

A new coach will need two years, let’s do it

I am a patient bugger, I haven’t wavered from Potter In because I can see progress. I only see us going backwards under Jones

They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.

Icy Gull · Mar 20, 2021

Brighton Lines said:
They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.

We’ll have to agree to differ, shadow of the team that beat New Zealand and not at all convincing in wins against teams in transition.

The kicking this Six Nations has been mostly moronic and repeat. The flair is non existent

We’ll see what happens but I really hope we thank Jones and get rid of him

Eeyore · Mar 20, 2021

Icy Gull said:
We’ll have to agree to differ, shadow of the team that beat New Zealand and not at all convincing in wins against teams in transition.

The kicking this Six Nations has been mostly moronic and repeat. The flair is non existent

We’ll see what happens but I really hope we thank Jones and get rid of him

No surprise given the polarised and haphazard nature of rugby since the pandemic struck.

The Sarries players are especially rusty.

Lethargic · Mar 20, 2021

Brighton Lines said:
They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.

But it been the same since he took over show potential play well one year then go backwards the following year and repeat

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Icy Gull · Mar 20, 2021

Brighton Lines said:
No surprise given the polarised and haphazard nature of rugby since the pandemic struck.

The Sarries players are especially rusty.

Except why is it just us that have gone backwards? France, Ireland (for the most part) and Wales all appear to be coping OK. Scotland have been a little naive/unlucky since they beat England but you can see the improvement. I see NONE from England :shrug:

Gwylan · Mar 20, 2021

Brighton Lines said:
They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

That's a bit misleading: the Wales team was missing several key players and the French team was virtually a second team

Jones can seemingly do nothing about England's appalling disciplinary record, no team is going to win when they concede 14 penalties in a match.

Eeyore · Mar 20, 2021

Lethargic said:
But it been the same since he took over show potential play well one year then go backwards the following year and repeat

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Like most teams apart from New Zealand then. Rugby is always a fast changing sport with personnel revolving.

I'd say three 6 nations and RWC final is a good return. Haven't had a return like that since Woodward.

England have only manged a three in five three times in the last 50 years.

#Perspective

Eeyore · Mar 20, 2021

Icy Gull said:
Except why is it just us that have gone backwards? France, Ireland (for the most part) and Wales all appear to be coping OK. Scotland have been a little naive/unlucky since they beat England but you can see the improvement. I see NONE from England

Every coach has a bad season if they are around long term. That's my main point.

Jones has an excellent track record. He needs to turn things around. That's all.

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