[Albion] Small Point re that free kick / the (poor) officials today

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

It only dawned on me after we’d thankfully defended it but how the **** has the ref given a free kick there? He let them play on and miss a one on one - then pulls it back! No no no - they had their advantage and missed - piss poor decision that could have cost us.

Rules:

ADVANTAGE

allows play to continue when an offence occurs and the non-offending team will benefit from the advantage and penalises the offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time or within a few seconds

They had a clear advantage, used the advantage and missed - they should not have been given a second chance. More piss poor officiating. And don’t get me started on playing an extra 35 seconds or so when there was no delays...

Rookie · Mar 14, 2021

very much this - genuinely thought we would be cheated by a ref for the second time in a number of weeks.

The Optimist · Mar 14, 2021

With added time is it not a minimum. So if the ref has timed that 3 mins and 30 seconds should be added on then the board will display 3 minutes but the ref will play 3 minutes 30 seconds.

Completely agree regarding the advantage. Should never have been a free kick after they got a shot on goal.

R. Slicker · Mar 14, 2021

sheebo said:
It only dawned on me after we’d thankfully defended it but how the **** has the ref given a free kick there? He let them play on and miss a one on one - the pulls it back! No no no - they had their advantage and missed - piss poor decision that could have cost us.

Rules:

ADVANTAGE

allows play to continue when an offence occurs and the non-offending team will benefit from the advantage and penalises the offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time or within a few seconds

They had a clear advantage, used the advantage and missed - they should not have been given a second chance. More piss poor officiating. And don’t get me started on playing an extra 35 seconds or so when there was no delays...

Am I reading this wrong, Does the bold bit not answer the question? I was more annoyed that Minimino wasn't touched when he went down.

carlzeiss · Mar 14, 2021

Think that the ref was applying Rugby Union rules there .

South Stand Bonfire · Mar 14, 2021

It was a strange decision. They had the advantage and used it to their benefit. How play can then be taken back to give them a second chance; I have no idea !

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

Sorry guys just seen there’s a thread already pointing this out - glad others felt aggrieved too.

What a win - needed that - wasn’t as pretty as normal but think we did that deliberately - 100% confidence is so so so important - we looked completely devoid of it 1st half after our recent undeserved results but we dug in and the confidence grew. Long way to go but feels good to win that one. Still think we were miles better against Villa / scum etc but that’s football.

Shooting Star · Mar 14, 2021

I didn't see too much wrong with it personally, thought the ref had a good game...

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

The Optimist said:
With added time is it not a minimum. So if the ref has timed that 3 mins and 30 seconds should be added on then the board will display 3 minutes but the ref will play 3 minutes 30 seconds.

Completely agree regarding the advantage. Should never have been a free kick after they got a shot on goal.

Oooohhhh never ever thought of it like this. I assumed it was just rounded up or down to the nearest minute!?

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

R. Slicker said:
Am I reading this wrong, Does the bold bit not answer the question? I was more annoyed that Minimino wasn't touched when he went down.

No because the advantage (a one on one clear shot) is a better chance than a free kick - they can’t have both surely.

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Mar 14, 2021

sheebo said:
It only dawned on me after we’d thankfully defended it but how the **** has the ref given a free kick there? He let them play on and miss a one on one - the pulls it back! No no no - they had their advantage and missed - piss poor decision that could have cost us.

Rules:

ADVANTAGE

allows play to continue when an offence occurs and the non-offending team will benefit from the advantage and penalises the offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time or within a few seconds

They had a clear advantage, used the advantage and missed - they should not have been given a second chance. More piss poor officiating. And don’t get me started on playing an extra 35 seconds or so when there was no delays...

Wasn’t there a delay in injury time when the ball went out for a throw in while VAR checked for a penalty. The ref certainly stopped the game from restarting straight away but I didn’t think the delay was that long.

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

Shooting Star said:
I didn't see too much wrong with it personally, thought the ref had a good game...

I thought all 3 favoured Southampton personally. Nothing too major but lots of free kicks given to them when we’d won the ball.

Sheebo · Mar 14, 2021

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
Wasn’t there a delay in injury time when the ball went out for a throw in while VAR checked for a penalty. The ref certainly stopped the game from restarting straight away but I didn’t think the delay was that long.

Was hard to tell on tv but there was - 5 secs maximum. Nowhere near what he played. Same ref also refused to blow up on time for the first half when there was no delays purely because they were on the attack - grinds my gears.

But **** it it doesn’t matter overall - the good guys won!

maltaseagull · Mar 14, 2021

Rookie said:
very much this - genuinely thought we would be cheated by a ref for the second time in a number of weeks.

He certainly seemed to want to give them another chance to score.

Neville's Breakfast · Mar 14, 2021

The Optimist said:
With added time is it not a minimum. So if the ref has timed that 3 mins and 30 seconds should be added on then the board will display 3 minutes but the ref will play 3 minutes 30 seconds.

Completely agree regarding the advantage. Should never have been a free kick after they got a shot on goal.

Either that or a bit more time added on for the (brief) VAR check

Hampster Gull · Mar 14, 2021

Our egg chasing cousins would have pulled it back for the free kick

smeariestbat · Mar 14, 2021

carlzeiss said:
Think that the ref was applying Rugby Union rules there .

Not quite. As it wasn’t a penalty offence, as soon as the player had a chance at points then its considered advantage played - tactical/territorial advantage rules apply so it would have been advantage played. If its penalty advantage in rugby they can have an attempt at points and come back for the penalty if they miss.

Yes Chef · Mar 14, 2021

Yes, they had two bites of the cherry, which seems unfair in that specific area and passage of play, it's not like it was an inconsequential coming together in the middle of the pitch.

They were basically given two chances to score for one infringement

Thompson720 · Mar 14, 2021

I thought that was an utter farce. And it was lauded it as a great piec of advantage. Yeah right...

One Teddy Maybank · Mar 14, 2021

Agree, but that was his only poor decision,which is quite good for PL officials.

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