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[Other Sport] From the book of terrible excuses



Wardy's twin

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Oct 21, 2014
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If the police unearth evidence of wrongdoing, that’s a very different matter.

The poster was saying that we should assume guilt of various hypothetical crimes as the trainer looks the type that’d be up to no good.

Hardly the same thing!

if you are referring to me then i said he should be sacked because of what he did NOT what he might have done BUT also said felt it was very unlikely that was the first time
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Crikey. That’s not a good look is it? What a plum.
 


Jul 7, 2003
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Very good piece by Matt Chapman on Sky Sports Racing earlier on this. Elliott has been an idiot - the picture really doesn't look like a man distressed at the loss of a horse - but his response has only made things worse.

Although O'Leary has publicly backed him, the other major owners are likely to want to disassociate themselves with him. Now the BHA have banned him, owners with Cheltenham prospects are likely to switch their horses to a new trainer and will need a lot of persuading to go back again.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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The Rob James video that has now come to light is of a similar ilk.

At least he had the good sense to try and not come up with piss poor excuse, although I'm not sure he has anywhere to go.
 


GT49er

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GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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It’s not a photo that I’d choose to pose in, but I genuinely can’t see what all the outrage is about.

The horse is dead, it apparently died of a heart attack, so he’s not causing it any further pain from its life as a racehorse.

I totally get the outrage about perceived cruelty in the sport, but that’s different.
A very brave post!! But broadly I agree with you. I've no doubt it was extremely bad taste and a pretty dumb thing to do - but the level of online outrage ............... it seems Jihadi John got off lighter with a head in one hand and his bloody knife in the other!
That poor old carcass will by now have likely suffered fay worse indignities than merely being sat on - dragged up on to the back of a truck with an old tarpaulin chucked over it and carted off the be 'processed', and probably appreciated by the local pack of ox hounds.
Sorry for the poor old horse.
 


Seagull58

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Jan 31, 2012
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The Rob James video that has now come to light is of a similar ilk.

At least he had the good sense to try and not come up with piss poor excuse, although I'm not sure he has anywhere to go.

I've seen the video. There is really no plausible excuse except "I was having a laugh with my mates", which is no excuse at all.
It's now clear that this "unique" occurrence is twice as common as we thought it was yesterday. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a normal Irish racing portrait picture.
 


Giraffe

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I'm edging towards becoming vegan. I've cut out most meat already but still have dairy. This kind of thing makes my blood boil.

In 200 years time I believe our generation will look as bad as the slave traders did. We have no right to treat animals in the way we do.
 




Razzoo

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He should have said. I am a dickhead, I did a stupid an regrettable thing and here is a whopping donation to Equine welfare charities. It will never happen again.
 


Jul 7, 2003
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He should have said. I am a dickhead, I did a stupid an regrettable thing and here is a whopping donation to Equine welfare charities. It will never happen again.

That is just what Matt Chapman said on Sky Racing
 


1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
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I'm edging towards becoming vegan. I've cut out most meat already but still have dairy. This kind of thing makes my blood boil.

In 200 years time I believe our generation will look as bad as the slave traders did. We have no right to treat animals in the way we do.

I wonder how many people expressing outrage over this, and it is outrageous to be fair, are vegan or vegetarian?
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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I struggle to get outraged about anything tbh. This is just rank idiocy though. WHY would you actively choose to walk up to a dead horse, and straddle it ? He works in the industry, he must have some kind of clue as to the general reaction. So what was the point, was it for a laugh ?

Weird.
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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I wonder how many people expressing outrage over this, and it is outrageous to be fair, are vegan or vegetarian?

I'm not veggie or vegan but I do know that Horse Racing is a business that exploits on many levels and really isn't relevant in 2021.
 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Did he kill the horse too?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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So, a year suspension, with six months suspended, for what the Irish authority calls an 'unforgivable' offence. Similar to the suspension Cantona got for kicking the Palarse gobshite. Nice to know the going rate for unforgibability :shrug:
 


JackB247

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Sep 25, 2013
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I'm not veggie or vegan but I do know that Horse Racing is a business that exploits on many levels and really isn't relevant in 2021.

Whilst I'm under no illusions as to the challenges our industry faces to bring in more of the younger generations, must reject the notion that it's not relevant in 2021.

Over a million people watch racing on a Saturday when it's the main channel on ITV, a large and loyal audience still exists for horseracing.

Incidents like this really don't help however and there is going to be quite the campaign needed to demonstrate the love and respect given to the horses in our the industry. In this vain, I would have liked Elliott to get a longer sit on the subs bench.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Whilst I'm under no illusions as to the challenges our industry faces to bring in more of the younger generations, must reject the notion that it's not relevant in 2021.

Over a million people watch racing on a Saturday when it's the main channel on ITV, a large and loyal audience still exists for horseracing.

Incidents like this really don't help however and there is going to be quite the campaign needed to demonstrate the love and respect given to the horses in our the industry. In this vain, I would have liked Elliott to get a longer sit on the subs bench.

Shhhh ! you are meant to say it is a " Sport " ! Industries die, a sport shouldn't, if it was a sport .
 




raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Crap excuse and a weird thing to do but is sitting on a dead animal that died of a heart attack really worth him being “cancelled” over?

It’s obviously a deliberate photo, so that excuse he gave is, um, horse shit, but should it cost him his livelihood?

Whether horse racing with jumps should be allowed at all is another matter. It’s a rare Grand National that doesn’t end up with a dead horse or two on the course.

Agree on your last sentence. I can't imagine any owners/ trainers are in the business for the good of the horse, shirley it's all about the money and fame for themselves.
 




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