Leekbrookgull
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As this news story rumbles on surely people will just cross the border and what about the ECHR ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55866162
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[News] Poland and abortion.
- Thread starter Leekbrookgull
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Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Sad, I thought Poland was moving forward, however like many other countries around the world, religion holds it back....
Religion the last bastion of the ignorant.
B-right-on
Living the dream
Says it all.
Been to Poland over 20 times, great country, lovely people mostly, lots of problems left over from the communist times still. Financially still ****ed.
Catholicism very strong and powerful, especially in the older generation. Where the power base will be for things like this.
The dominant political party PiS also oppose LGBT rights.
Been there twice. I know that lody is the Polish word for icecream and that some guy had a pet turtle.
This makes me think nothing in particular, really.
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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You don't have to be religious to believe that an unborn baby is a human life worth saving. Though I dare say religious people are more likely to think that?
Probably they are, in general. Some of them even moan about the hundreds of thousands of unborn babies I kill off during Pornhub visits. Though tbf lots of religious people are pro-abortion these days, the few ones I know here in Sweden are pretty liberal in their views. Think its more about having a very conservate society in general rather than religion itself.
Withdean11
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Exactly. I’m not religious, but abortion is murder.
- Apr 5, 2014
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I don't think it is. Generally, Catholicism has a stronger doctrinal hold on even a secular society. There is more of an identity thing going on.
Catholicism has increased in the UK over the last 20 years, but this is likely due to the increased Polish population et al.
Ironic that nations in the EU can have their own laws on fundamental aspects of life and don't all follow an EU directive like sheep, and even sometimes act in defiance of the 'norm'. If this is the case how come we were forced to eat straight bananas and drink beer by the litre?
I am not sure what the OP's point is here, though. What do you expect us to say, Leaky? The further East you go in Europe (and possibly south too) the more primitive and reactionary the people. Yes, I knew that
I am not sure what the OP's point is here, though. What do you expect us to say, Leaky? The further East you go in Europe (and possibly south too) the more primitive and reactionary the people. Yes, I knew that
RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
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I think abortion is murder.
Do a Google image search for “aborted foetus”. If you can look at those pictures and still say afterwards that it’s a woman’s right to choose and that it’s only a bunch of cells anyway, then there’s not much more I can say, really.
And in several countries laws are being introduced that allow for abortions up to nine months.
Do a Google image search for “aborted foetus”. If you can look at those pictures and still say afterwards that it’s a woman’s right to choose and that it’s only a bunch of cells anyway, then there’s not much more I can say, really.
And in several countries laws are being introduced that allow for abortions up to nine months.
beorhthelm
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RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
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Neither are many forms of manslaughter.
Thunder Bolt
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A miscarriage is a natural action to a faulty pregnancy. It can happen to any woman, in fact, one in three pregnancies result in miscarriages.
Thunder Bolt
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I wasn't making a comment about whether miscarriage is manslaughter but about the nature of manslaughter itself, it's not as black and white as Rossy seems to think it is.
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Withdean11
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What a strange comparison. No, of course not. If a baby sadly dies inside or outside of the womb from natural courses, it wouldn’t be manslaughter.
However if someone makes the decision to kill a baby, inside or outside of the womb, I would call it murder.
Since you mentioned miscarriage, if an unborn baby is “just a clump of cells”, then why do the pro-choice lot find miscarriages sad, but support abortion? Assuming you are pro-choice.
beorhthelm
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is it always natural causes? could it not be result of some action, intentional or accidental on behalf of the mother or others? shouldn't we investigate, establish if there was any wrongdoing that lead to that miscarriage? seems odd to view abortion as murder then simply dismiss all miscarriage as natural.