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[Brighton] Be careful what you wish for....



crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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To the GPott haters, be careful what you wish for.

Look at West Brom, they've changed their manager, doesn't appear to have done them an awful lot of good. We are highly unlikely to go down, we are better than the 3 sides below us and I think we're better than 2 or 3 above us currently as well. We could bring in a firefigher to get enough points to keep us up but there are no guarantees in football and if we sacked GPott and bought someone short term in and went down we'd be in a right mess, if we are looking for a long term manager then GPott is the man and if we went down and we didn't have him here he's exactly the type of amanger we'd be looking at to bring us back up.

The Championship and beyond is littered with clubs whose fans thought their manager wasn't good enough had aspirations at that stage above their realistic standing and ended up sacking a manager, making a poor appointment next time and put them on a downward spiral straight out of the EPL.
 


Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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When people have been mentioning potential replacements, nobody has mentioned the horror show that would be Phillip Neville. The fact he got linked to us before, he knows Ashworth through the FA, I would think there's a very good chance he could be on a list of potential replacements. So anyone who doesn't want Potter should be very careful what they wish for.

As the OP said above, Potter is the man for the long term project. Long term projects are rarely plain sailing, there will always be ups and downs, we just have to keep faith in the plan, and the manager.
 
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Driver8

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Jul 31, 2005
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North Wales
When people have been mentioning potential replacements, nobody has mentioned the horror show that would be Phillip Neville. The fact he got linked to us before, he knows Ashworth throw the FA, I would think there's a very good chance he could on a list of potential replacements. So anyone who doesn't want Potter should be very careful what they wish for.

As the OP said above, Potter is the man for the long term project. Long term projects are rarely plain sailing, there will always be ups and downs, we just have to keep faith in the plan, and the manager.

He has just taken over at Beckham’s Inter Miami.
 


Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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He has just taken over at Beckham’s Inter Miami.

I didn't know that, but even still that doesn't necessarily rule him out. If we wanted him I'm sure the opportunity to manage in the Premier League would draw him back.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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we are better than the 3 sides below us

Games played against these three teams so far this season: 4
Games won against these three teams so far this season: 0

If you want to include all the teams in the bottom half of who we're supposedly better than at least half of them by this logic;

Games played against these nine teams so far this season: 10
Games won against these nine teams so far this season: 2
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Games played against these three teams so far this season: 4
Games won against these three teams so far this season: 0

If you want to include all the teams in the bottom half of who we're supposedly better than at least half of them by this logic;

Games played against these nine teams so far this season: 10
Games won against these nine teams so far this season: 2

Games lost against these nine teams 1
 


Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
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To the GPott haters, be careful what you wish for.

Look at West Brom, they've changed their manager, doesn't appear to have done them an awful lot of good. We are highly unlikely to go down, we are better than the 3 sides below us and I think we're better than 2 or 3 above us currently as well. We could bring in a firefigher to get enough points to keep us up but there are no guarantees in football and if we sacked GPott and bought someone short term in and went down we'd be in a right mess, if we are looking for a long term manager then GPott is the man and if we went down and we didn't have him here he's exactly the type of amanger we'd be looking at to bring us back up.

The Championship and beyond is littered with clubs whose fans thought their manager wasn't good enough had aspirations at that stage above their realistic standing and ended up sacking a manager, making a poor appointment next time and put them on a downward spiral straight out of the EPL.

Totally agree - however you would be surprised how many people think changing manager would help us . It wouldn’t of course ..
 


A1X

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Games lost against these nine teams 1

So considering we're supposed to be better than these teams our win:loss ratio is actually quite poor?
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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So considering we're supposed to be better than these teams our win:loss ratio is actually quite poor?

err.... Being pedantic 2:1 is pretty good ratio isn't it?


But seriously, even that doesn't mean we aren't a better team though does it?


We all know we have drawn too many games.
It feels like we need 10 big chances to score a single goal.

But take an actual look at the games.

Fulham who are in decent form, were absolutely smashed last night, if our strikers had any confidence, that's a 3-0 game. - 2 pts dropped poor finishing
Sheffield United: we managed to miss an open goal on 2 or 3 occasions in the last 10. 2 points dropped due to poor finishing
Newcastle - destroyed them
Palace. They set up for a point and managed 1 shot on target in the whole game (dodgy penalty), at home. We absolutely bossed that game and again squandered numerous chances. - 2pts dropped poor finishing
Burnley. - honours even
Wolves - spirited comeback in a who has the worst defence contest - honours even
Leeds - We were comfortably the better team.
Saints - Robbed of a point by a ridiculous VAR decison - 1 pt dropped
West Brom - Threw the 3 pts in 2nd half shocker.

I think we will finish above Palace,Newcastle, Sheffield United and West Brom. Probably Fulham too, depending on which one of us sorts out their goals problem first.
We may even go above Leeds too if Trossard/McAllister/Tau/Connoly can chip in with 5 or 6 goals each.
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
5,798
Seaford
To the GPott haters, be careful what you wish for.

Look at West Brom, they've changed their manager, doesn't appear to have done them an awful lot of good. We are highly unlikely to go down, we are better than the 3 sides below us and I think we're better than 2 or 3 above us currently as well. We could bring in a firefigher to get enough points to keep us up but there are no guarantees in football and if we sacked GPott and bought someone short term in and went down we'd be in a right mess, if we are looking for a long term manager then GPott is the man and if we went down and we didn't have him here he's exactly the type of amanger we'd be looking at to bring us back up.

The Championship and beyond is littered with clubs whose fans thought their manager wasn't good enough had aspirations at that stage above their realistic standing and ended up sacking a manager, making a poor appointment next time and put them on a downward spiral straight out of the EPL.

Completely agree. I also think that it would potentially undo all of the progress we have made under Potter. Allardyce has taken a poor Prem side who were slowly improving under Bilic (and looked decent enough against us at the Amex) and slammed them into full reverse.

I also don't think Bloom is really the type to bring in a firefighter. Gone are the days when we need a Russell Slade to come in and get the basics right. The basics are there, we just need to finish off simple chances.
 


el punal

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To the GPott haters, be careful what you wish for.

Look at West Brom, they've changed their manager, doesn't appear to have done them an awful lot of good. We are highly unlikely to go down, we are better than the 3 sides below us and I think we're better than 2 or 3 above us currently as well. We could bring in a firefigher to get enough points to keep us up but there are no guarantees in football and if we sacked GPott and bought someone short term in and went down we'd be in a right mess, if we are looking for a long term manager then GPott is the man and if we went down and we didn't have him here he's exactly the type of amanger we'd be looking at to bring us back up.

The Championship and beyond is littered with clubs whose fans thought their manager wasn't good enough had aspirations at that stage above their realistic standing and ended up sacking a manager, making a poor appointment next time and put them on a downward spiral straight out of the EPL.

For those doom mongers and those that expect instant gratification with a new manager, look no further than Derby County. A club that over the last ten years or so have had expectations, at any cost, of Premier League football. In order to achieve this they have demanded almost immediate success from those they appoint. They have had ELEVEN people in the hot seat in the last six years - some admittedly as caretakers. So stand up Steve McClaren x2, Nigel Pearson, Chris Powell, Paul Clement, Phillipe Cocu, Gary Rowett, Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney - and the additional temporary seat warmers.

Remind me where they are in the Championship? Yep, 21st, one above the relegation spot.

We, on the other hand, have had five managers since 2009. Three have achieved success with promotion/play off position at the end of the season, one an abject failure after five months and one incumbent. We are now in our fourth season in the Premier League.

Now I wonder which club has the best strategy in recruitment, development and overall success of their team?
 




Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
23,858
Sussex
Bit early to write of Allardyce after what 3/4 games ?

They still have us to play at home so that would mean the gap down to 4

Long way to go
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
13,653
Manchester
A firefighter manager isn't going to magically make our attackers start taking their chances. The first thing that they usually do is shore up the defence, and conceding goals hasn't been as much as an issue, particularly since Sanchez has been in goal.
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,498
Vacationland
‘Inter Miami’. :lolol: Whatever next, Philadelphia Monchengladbach? :lolol:

There's a case for it. Miami's the de-facto capital of the Caribbean and Central America, in addition to being the largest city in Florida.
Tons of Hatians, Puertoriceños, Venezuelans, etc, etc. in addition to the better known Cuban community. Plus Anglos.
No more polyglot city in America, with the possible exception of New York.

If any team in the MLS deserves the appellation, they do.

Any team called 'Union' or "United' that's not the consequence of a merger of existing teams is more preposterous. And Sporting Kansas City positively takes the biscuit. Or Real Salt Lake.
 
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