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    Watched the second ever episode of Porridge yesterday morning, it bought back amazing memories, as I watched back in October 1974 with my dear old Gran and Grandad.

    Its the one where Fletch sets up a gambling version of Snakes and Ladders in the coke store with Lukewarm, Heslop and Evans, Mr Mackay gets wind of it and despatches a coal delivery down there.

    The four emerge covered in soot to which Mackay utters the line "Welcome to the Black and White Minstrel Show", which ironically at the time was my Gran's favourite TV programme, 47 years ago the three of us laughed out loud.

    Yesterday morning UK Gold elected to remove that line from the broadcast, whilst the scene was still funny, Fulton Mackay's line was the pay off so clearly something was missing.

    But was it really that offensive in 21st century Britain?

    I appreciate that times have changed but surely we just can't whitewash history and popular culture of a certain time just to appease the woke brigade?

    Honestly if they left it in as they have been doing previously since UK Gold began broadcasting in 1993, how many people would actually have complained?

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      The other night I was watching To The Manor Born (slow TV day), and there was a scene on a train platform. The characters were chatting with posters behind them, and one poster had been blurred out. Not sure what could have been classed as so offensive that in 2021 we couldn't see it.
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      Sad times indeed,anything seems to offensive to the modern day wokeflake, watched the classic Dick Emery film the other day, “Ooh you are awful .” Cut to ribbons,Auf Wiedersen pet, cut, seems no one is to have a laugh anymore.. cancel culture innit.
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      Wasn’t this same ‘censorship’ issue discussed recently on the Pogues Christmas song thread ? All points on both sides are pretty familiar by now. Sorry to dig you out on a new thread again Lenny. Anyway, why are you watching Porridge ? It hasn’t been funny since about 1980
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      Watched the second ever episode of Porridge yesterday morning, it bought back amazing memories, as I watched back in October 1974 with my dear old Gran and Grandad.

      Its the one where Fletch sets up a gambling version of Snakes and Ladders in the coke store with Lukewarm, Heslop and Evans, Mr Mackay gets wind of it and despatches a coal delivery down there.

      The four emerge covered in soot to which Mackay utters the line "Welcome to the Black and White Minstrel Show", which ironically at the time was my Gran's favourite TV programme, 47 years ago the three of us laughed out loud.

      Yesterday morning UK Gold elected to remove that line from the broadcast, whilst the scene was still funny, Fulton Mackay's line was the pay off so clearly something was missing.

      But was it really that offensive in 21st century Britain?

      I appreciate that times have changed but surely we just can't whitewash history and popular culture of a certain time just to appease the woke brigade?


      Honestly if they left it in as they have been doing previously since UK Gold began broadcasting in 1993, how many people would actually have complained?
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      I appreciate that times have changed but surely we just can't whitewash history and popular culture of a certain time just to appease the woke brigade?
      I don't wanna be obtuse, or condescending, but I am pretty sure the censors are doing exactly the opposite to whitewashing history they are correcting or removing offensive comments, even if not intended at the time.

      Whitewash:
      As defined by Merriam-Webster, to whitewash is "to alter ... in a way that favors, features, or caters to white people: such as ... casting a white performer in a role based on a nonwhite person or fictional character"
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      Quote Originally Posted by Psychobilly freakout View Post
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      I don't wanna be obtuse, or condescending, but I am pretty sure the censors are doing exactly the opposite to whitewashing history they are correcting or removing offensive comments, even if not intended at the time.

      Whitewash:
      As defined by Merriam-Webster, to whitewash is "to alter ... in a way that favors, features, or caters to white people: such as ... casting a white performer in a role based on a nonwhite person or fictional character"
      That's a pretty recent (in this country, at least) definition of the term. It has long had a much more general meaning of "covering over past wrongs".
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