[Misc] Containers

The Clamp · Jan 24, 2021

Pint of Ale and a Burger said:
Exactly,create jobs in our own country and bring back the quality in the products we buy.

By importing endless containers of manufacturing materials? We produce very few raw materials. Mostly aggregate in relatively small amounts. I suppose we could keep it here and try and make a mobile phone out of gravel but I'm not sure it would be a seller.

Herr Tubthumper · Jan 24, 2021

HalfaSeatOn said:
This reminds me of two of my family members. One conservative, one socialist. The former constantly jibes the latter for having beliefs without living by them. I'm no socialist but must be next to impossible to not be accused of being hypocritical. You'd almost have to opt out of the system.

I’m a socialist and find it quite easy to live by the socialist code.

Knocky's Nose · Jan 24, 2021

banjo said:
We can make it out of Bakelite we were good at that.

Taking the piss...

(It's a Bakelite nerd thing.. :lolol:

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banjo · Jan 24, 2021

Knocky's Nose said:
Taking the piss...

(It's a Bakelite nerd thing.. )

I spelt it correctly. It’s a hidden piss take if you know what I mean n

Albion in the north · Jan 24, 2021

Mustafa said:
There are few material things that we can't produce ourselves. Maybe these costs will drive us manufacture and produce more here?

I already actively avoid anything "made in China" as it's generally such poor quality.

Its been my one hope through all of this that we start to buy more British made things. Sure, it will take time to get up to speed and will cost more but would make such a difference to our world. We value all the crap we buy (and normally import) above the ,imho, meaningful things in life. Its never going to happen, of course. We have become so hooked on possessions , who has the best car, the biggest house etc.

Iford Albion · Jan 24, 2021

This. They make what people want to buy. And like Ikea they do it at the price people want to pay. Terrible way to design things. We need to pay more for better products. Better means functional, durable and sustainable. We also need to consume less. Look at our club merchandise. The amex shop is embarrassing.

Official Old Man · Jan 24, 2021

Thought this thread would vanish within a few minutes. Surprised many show an interest. I sell buckets, spades and all those 'quality goods' you see on Brighton seafront. An average container holds 10,000 items so adds pennies per item for me. But a T-Towel from China costs me £1.25 +vat to sell at £2.99. UK T-Towel prices are double to buy. Same with flip flops, sun glasses and most items. Tourists always buy the cheapest so I have to buy the cheapest.

Pint of Ale and a Burger · Jan 24, 2021

The Clamp said:
By importing endless containers of manufacturing materials? We produce very few raw materials. Mostly aggregate in relatively small amounts. I suppose we could keep it here and try and make a mobile phone out of gravel but I'm not sure it would be a seller.

Yes that's a good point but at least we would have British companies and workers making money out of the finished product.got to be better surely?

The Clamp · Jan 24, 2021

Pint of Ale and a Burger said:
Yes that's a good point but at least we would have British companies and workers making money out of the finished product.got to be better surely?

So what do you want? A sustainable climate or British products? You make some very odd arguments.

Shropshire Seagull · Jan 25, 2021

Knocky's Nose said:
We'll be feeding on scraps the rest of the world toss us for many years to come - and if we want anything from outside the UK, it'll cost us. If we move manufacturing to the UK, it'll cost us as we're an expensive country to manufacture products in.

Still, we're leaner, stronger, and better. Aren't we.

Did you get your crystal-ball from China?

zefarelly · Jan 25, 2021

A mex eyecan said:
surely though the raw materials have to be imported into the country of manufacture, then the finished goods exported to end using countries.

Well traditionally, or 50+ years ago things tended to come from countries that had the materials, remember containers were all made of tin. delicious tin :ohmy:

furniture was made of genuine tree wood, and lasted a lifetime.

Deportivo Seagull · Jan 25, 2021

Baker lite said:
I’m not the one dripping like a septic fanny about containers from China....If the Op is upset about the price simply stop importing from China..

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You’ll be dripping when inflation goes through the roof. Sadly we manufacture very little and so have to import. Not difficult.

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Deportivo Seagull · Jan 25, 2021

Pint of Ale and a Burger said:
Exactly,create jobs in our own country and bring back the quality in the products we buy.

Because we have no infrastructure and we’d be more expensive that the imports.

We were ****ed when Maggie decided that we should be a service based industry rather than manufacturing. The one thing we are very good at is high complexity very low volume engineering, we just don’t have the mass manufacturing infrastructure and also a distinct lack of skills. You can train someone up but as long as we are a serviced based industry it will always be seen as low skilled, low paid numpty work. I spent the last 35 years in the high complexity engineering world and it can be very depressing.

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zefarelly · Jan 25, 2021

Deportivo Seagull said:
Because we have no infrastructure and we’d be more expensive that the imports.

We were ****ed when Maggie decided that we should be a service based industry rather than manufacturing. The one thing we are very good at is high complexity very low volume engineering, we just don’t have the mass manufacturing infrastructure and also a distinct lack of skills. You can train someone up but as long as we are a serviced based industry it will always be seen as low skilled, low paid numpty work. I spent the last 35 years in the high complexity engineering world and it can be very depressing.

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As a design engineer/draughtsman, I've always thought I'd have a job for life. However I've had to adapt continually to avoid career death. It'll be interesting to see if we attempt any sort of manufacturing resurection. We could but it would require a massive shift in consumer psychology.

most people seems to expect new everything every few years, from clothes to kitchens and particularly white goods and therefore buy cheap imported mass produced tat to fit the budget.

I've been contemplating a hi-fi upgrade for a few years, but it'll be an investment, and needs careful consideration. For a start there's nothing wrong with my old one as it's a quality UK made bit of kit, its 20 years old.

Baker lite · Jan 25, 2021

Deportivo Seagull said:
You’ll be dripping when inflation goes through the roof. Sadly we manufacture very little and so have to import. Not difficult.

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No complaints from me skip,I’ve never had it so good.

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Chicken Run · Jan 25, 2021

I opened this thread in anticipation of a debate about Tupperware, what a shame[emoji29]

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Thunder Bolt · Jan 25, 2021

Deportivo Seagull said:
Because we have no infrastructure and we’d be more expensive that the imports.

We were ****ed when Maggie decided that we should be a service based industry rather than manufacturing. The one thing we are very good at is high complexity very low volume engineering, we just don’t have the mass manufacturing infrastructure and also a distinct lack of skills. You can train someone up but as long as we are a serviced based industry it will always be seen as low skilled, low paid numpty work. I spent the last 35 years in the high complexity engineering world and it can be very depressing.

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Qualified engineers in other countries are well paid and highly prized. Britain still treats them like blue collar workers. Yes, I have an interest because I am married to a qualified mechanical and electronics design engineer.

Deportivo Seagull · Jan 25, 2021

Thunder Bolt said:
Qualified engineers in other countries are well paid and highly prized. Britain still treats them like blue collar workers. Yes, I have an interest because I am married to a qualified mechanical and electronics design engineer.

I stuck with membership of IET rather than getting chartered as there was no point. If I was working in Europe it would have been a different story.

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Baker lite · Jan 25, 2021

Deportivo Seagull said:
I stuck with membership of IET rather than getting chartered as there was no point. If I was working in Europe it would have been a different story.

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Where do you work? America? Australia?

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Deportivo Seagull · Jan 25, 2021

Baker lite said:
No complaints from me skip,I’ve never had it so good.

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That’s nice, suspect you’ll be one of the few. 22 years in?

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