Kalimantan Gull
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It also means we have a relatively new manager developing an inexperienced squad most of whom are also relatively new to the Albion first team and working out the best formation and partnerships
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It also means we have a relatively new manager developing an inexperienced squad most of whom are also relatively new to the Albion first team and working out the best formation and partnerships
Tom Hark Preston Park
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rogersix
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Potter clearly IS over-tinkering. Just check out the Predict Potter's Picks thread. No two successive sides the same, often with seemingly perverse selection of players relegated to the bench. How does ANY club begin to build something meaningful from such a scattergun approach?
You are an old clogger tho Tommy
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Jack-of-all-trades squad seems a far worse model IMHO
11 specialist players with defined roles means as long as the game plan is working - then all good.
If not, then you have to have the right subs on the bench
11 "Jack of all trades" players gives you the option to change the game-plan without using subs
Or using subs to cover multiple scenarios.
In the Premier League we are more likely to need to adapt mid-game than in the Championship, where we can afford to have one of the top squads.
It makes sense to me
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Maybe you should go back to stalking [MENTION=1483]London Irish[/MENTION] matey. Or indeed anyone who gives a shit
rogersix
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Jack-of-all-trades squad seems a far worse model IMHO
How about rebranding it, "totalfootball", 1970's Holland?
rogersix
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Maybe you should go back to stalking [MENTION=1483]London Irish[/MENTION] matey. Or indeed anyone who gives a shit
I was merely pointing out said poster's xenophobia
Tom Hark Preston Park
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You do realise that said poster's username is just something to do with egg-chasing right?
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Potter clearly IS over-tinkering. Just check out the Predict Potter's Picks thread. No two successive sides the same, often with seemingly perverse selection of players relegated to the bench. How does ANY club begin to build something meaningful from such a scattergun approach?
Yes, but no two successive opposition sides the same, either.
Jimmy Grimble
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I think that’s only because he thinks White is good option in midfield. If he had a central midfield option who he rated better than White, I’m sure he’d play Ben regularly at centre back.
(I don’t think there’s a lot between Veltman and White, but it makes more sense to develop White at cb in a ‘best’ XI.)
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Billy the Fish
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It's a romantic idea but I don't think history backs it up.
Look at the appearance and minutes played stats for the last 3 title winning side, they're absolutely dominated by 10 players.
All of the Albion promotion sides I've watched had a settled side.
Someone further up the there's points out that the top 3 settled sides in that list are all doing better than expected.
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But do teams win because they have a settled side, or do they have a settled side because they win?
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But surely if your logic is correct. the tinkering table should more closely follow the actual table?
Which it absolutely doesn't. Villa and West Ham have spent fairly big figures over the past 2 seasons. So it isn't a surprise now they are getting results,they are sticking with a similar lineup.
The point I was trying to make is when you can afford to have 11 of the best players in the division, then playing a settled side is the best way forward.
When you have a Premier League wage-bill in the bottom 4, being dependent on a "first 11" is a risk. Injuries and suspensions can totally **** up your season.
We have some very decent players. Dunk - Webster - Lamptey - Bissouma - Lallana.
But other than that, the rest of the squad are of a very similar level.
But increasingly most of them can play multiple positions/formations.
Potter has developed all the players to play like this.
It has transformed the way we play.
It's a strength.