[Help] Wood Burners - price and installation advice

chaileyjem · Jan 7, 2021

I'm thinking of getting a wood burner for my front room. I currently have an open fire.

I'm sold on More heat efficiency, less use of logs, will look better, improve value of house, warmer house even if not burning apparently .

On other hand its expensive to install c £1700 , not exactly green, and there is something about open flames not behind a glass door ...

Any NSC experience, advice , thoughts ?

zefarelly · Jan 7, 2021

we had a good open fire, and went the burner route . . . . did some (online) homework, decided (as we knew for fact) our chimney was good and we didn't need a liner. bought a decent burner ( £900) from the fireplace shop in Shoreham . . . . used 1m flu on top, cemented in, and fabricated a closure plate bolted in 2 halves under the top of the fireplace opening, which closes it off. the front half is removable for cleaning and sweeping. 2 or 3 years in we're good as gold.

I did most of the work myself so probably no more than a grand. and a 5 minute job, obviously.

If you have a good chimney, that draws well, don't be fooled into the liner route is all I will say, expensive and unnecessary.

definitely better heat wise and efficiency wise. Also a good bit cleaner/tidier in the withdrawing room. :wink:

Machiavelli · Jan 7, 2021

chaileyjem said:
I'm thinking of getting a wood burner for my front room. I currently have an open fire.

I'm sold on More heat efficiency, less use of logs, will look better, improve value of house, warmer house even if not burning apparently .

On other hand its expensive to install c £1700 , not exactly green, and there is something about open flames not behind a glass door ...

Any NSC experience, advice , thoughts ?

I know you're not one of those that will insist that, because it's in The Guardian, it's lefty nonsense, but you might want to look at this:

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...iple-harmful-indoor-air-pollution-study-finds

chaileyjem · Jan 7, 2021

Machiavelli said:
I know you're not one of those that will insist that, because it's in The Guardian, it's lefty nonsense, but you might want to look at this:

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...iple-harmful-indoor-air-pollution-study-finds

thks. yes. i think i saw that before xmas. a factor here - i live in a fairly remote rural area.

schmunk · Jan 7, 2021

chaileyjem said:
Its... not exactly green,

This one's green. Problem solved - go for it.

Laurel-Green-multi-fuel-Huntingdon-35-burning-logs_2-lb.jpg

Blue3 · Jan 7, 2021

Owners of wood burners, stoves and open fires will no longer be able to buy house coal or wet wood, under a ban to be rolled out from next year. Sales of the two most polluting fuels will be phased out in England to help cut air pollution, the government says.21 Feb 2020

Live by the sea · Jan 7, 2021

Wood burners are actually starting to go out of fashion . Companies now charging plenty to remove them safely . Personally I won’t bother - just stick with gas fired central heating . Lots of radiator choices nowdays that look quite funky .

Leave the real fires to people that live in Alaska etc

herecomesaregular · Jan 7, 2021

Current advise is not to use them around young or older people, surely slightly worrying?

Normal Rob · Jan 7, 2021

Absolutely love ours. Had it 5 years now. Don't use it everyday, only on cold weekends, and even them not each day. Yes they are not the most eco friendly and, evidently, healthy, but everything in small doses. Of course, if you find radiators charming, fill your boots.

Bombardier · Jan 7, 2021

Really, not aware. Trying to get someone to install ours was problematic as all the various companies we approached were over run with orders.

Perkino · Jan 7, 2021

chaileyjem said:
I'm thinking of getting a wood burner for my front room. I currently have an open fire.

I'm sold on More heat efficiency, less use of logs, will look better, improve value of house, warmer house even if not burning apparently .

On other hand its expensive to install c £1700 , not exactly green, and there is something about open flames not behind a glass door ...

Any NSC experience, advice , thoughts ?

Personally I would want to keep the open fireplace

Normal Rob · Jan 7, 2021

In terms of advice, get a mate who is a chimney sweep

. Mine pointed me in the direction of a bargain price stove, and did all the fitting (plate, flue etc) - whole thing came to around £1200.

doogie004 · Jan 7, 2021

Still love our open fire can’t beat it living out in countryside plenty of wood never had to buy any

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HankSkorpio · Jan 7, 2021

When installing a wood burning stove it will have to comply with building regs especially when selling the house will need to have been signed off by building control or fitted by a registered fitter.

https://www.stovefitterswarehouse.co.uk/pages/regulations-for-wood-burning-stoves

We looked into a wood burner install into an existing open fire but might go down the gas fire route eg

https://www.thefireplacecompany.co.uk/product/gazco-stockton-logic-he-gas-fire/

zefarelly · Jan 7, 2021

Blue3 said:
Owners of wood burners, stoves and open fires will no longer be able to buy house coal or wet wood, under a ban to be rolled out from next year. Sales of the two most polluting fuels will be phased out in England to help cut air pollution, the government says.21 Feb 2020

we're burning our own roof. 73 year old seasoned wood.

Do I win £5 ?

If a log burner is a toxic death trap, its a miracle our granparents made it through puberty burning coal in open fires in most rooms of the house. I don't deny the science for a second, but come on.

PILTDOWN MAN · Jan 7, 2021

Live by the sea said:
Wood burners are actually starting to go out of fashion . Companies now charging plenty to remove them safely . Personally I won’t bother - just stick with gas fired central heating . Lots of radiator choices nowdays that look quite funky .

Leave the real fires to people that live in Alaska etc

Nearest mains gas is 5 miles away, bottled forget it, we have oil central heating though cheaper last year prices are rising and generally expensive, live on a private country estate surrounded by woods. Free wood.

beorhthelm · Jan 7, 2021

zefarelly said:
we're burning our own roof. 73 year old seasoned wood.

Do I win £5 ?

If a log burner is a toxic death trap, its a miracle our granparents made it through puberty burning coal in open fires in most rooms of the house. I don't deny the science for a second, but come on.

we've cut lots of other sources of pollution, now the relatively low level from open fires counts as a large proportion. so someone comes along and says thats got to be reduced.

banjo · Jan 7, 2021

Two open fireplaces. Bloody lovely on a cold day.

Blue3 · Jan 7, 2021

zefarelly said:
we're burning our own roof. 73 year old seasoned wood.

Do I win £5 ?

If a log burner is a toxic death trap, its a miracle our granparents made it through puberty burning coal in open fires in most rooms of the house. I don't deny the science for a second, but come on.

I remember I made a twin chamber smoker and first BBQ I went to buy wood was quite supprised at the cost but then found wood brickets slow burning and cheap duly purchased what a terrable mistake how I didn't poison anyone heaven knows all the food had a rather plastic taste it was only then I investigated what these brickets were actually made from and its ingreadants included things like recycled chip board and marine ply I guess the taste was from the glues within these products

zefarelly · Jan 7, 2021

beorhthelm said:
we've cut lots of other sources of pollution, now the relatively low level from open fires counts as a large proportion. so someone comes along and says thats got to be reduced.

Yep

We had a fire for approx 2 hours last night. first of the week.

Bad Zef.

Old boy over the road, in his 90's, ex Power station engineer, burns coal 24/7. I'm amazed Asbestositis hasn't got him.

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