[Finance] New scam - faux Royal Mail emails

Weststander · Dec 22, 2020

I just received an email from ‘Royal Mail’ regarding a missed large letter delivery.

In haste in working my way through another zzzzzz 20 legit emails, I almost fell for it, I got half way through answering the long list of questions including providing bank card details. Yes I realise now that they don’t email, but we’ve had legit missed parcels lately, they were cleverly playing on this chaotic time of year. In the end it was small detail that stopped me just in time, they asked for my DOB also.

The emails look like this:

Out of interest, as I’ve never fallen for anything in the past, how do the scammers obtain email addresses?

Motogull · Dec 22, 2020

All I know is that anyone involved in that sort of thing needs dropping into a woodchipper.

Weststander · Dec 22, 2020

Motogull said:
All I know is that anyone involved in that sort of thing needs dropping into a woodchipper.

Have you ever had the opportunity to chat with telephone scammers? It may be water off a duck’s back to them, but depending on my mood, I’ve wasted their time with wind ups, other times abusing them verbally (not in my nature at all .... except with those tossers).

Motogull · Dec 22, 2020

Weststander said:
Have you ever had the opportunity to chat with telephone scammers? It may be water off a duck’s back to them, but depending on my mood, I’ve wasted their time with wind ups, other times abusing them verbally (not in my nature at all .... except with those tossers).

No. Best to cut the comms asap in my view. They have too much detail on you than they should and the last thing you need is a vindictive kunnt taking it further.

melias shoes · Dec 22, 2020

Motogull said:
All I know is that anyone involved in that sort of thing needs dropping into a woodchipper.

An inch at a time. Toes first.

Motogull · Dec 22, 2020

melias shoes said:
An inch at a time. Toes first.

That's too twisted for me. And inefficient. Time is money.

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Dec 22, 2020

Weststander said:
Out of interest, as I’ve never fallen for anything in the past, how do the scammers obtain email addresses?

If you’ve used your email address for a login on a site that’s been hacked or even as a contact email address, then it’s more than likely been sold to scammers at some point.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/ Is a good resource to find out what sites your email address and other details may have been stolen from.

AmexRuislip · Dec 22, 2020

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
If you’ve used your email address for a login on a site that’s been hacked or even as a contact email address, then it’s more than likely been sold to scammers at some point.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/ Is a good resource to find out what sites your email address and other details may have been stolen from.

Not being funny, but how do you know if that site collects email addresses

Worried Man Blues · Dec 22, 2020

Had one of those today and of course waiting for a parcel

fortunately looked up the senders E mail address and nothing showed so deleted it............. it was...... Newsletters @elevati.com obv. no gap, ******** and a Happy Christmas to them.

Weststander · Dec 22, 2020

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
If you’ve used your email address for a login on a site that’s been hacked or even as a contact email address, then it’s more than likely been sold to scammers at some point.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/ Is a good resource to find out what sites your email address and other details may have been stolen from.

houzz and MyFitnessPal are the likely candidates who suffered data breaches affecting us :down:

Wellesley · Dec 22, 2020

I can't believe that even the Royal Mail are scamming people now. What hope is there for this World. :shootself

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Dec 22, 2020

AmexRuislip said:
Not being funny, but how do you know if that site collects email addresses

The guy who created it is one of the leading web security experts. His site is used by governments to monitor breaches on their own domains. He’d lose a lot of credibility and business if it was revealed he was harvesting emails. He does offer an alert service so is legitimately asking for your data but you’d expect it to be stored incredibly securely.

AmexRuislip · Dec 22, 2020

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
The guy who created it is one of the leading web security experts. His site is used by governments to monitor breaches on their own domains. He’d lose a lot of credibility and business if it was revealed he was harvesting emails. He does offer an alert service so is legitimately asking for your data but you’d expect it to be stored incredibly securely.

Thank you

Shropshire Seagull · Dec 22, 2020

Motogull said:
No. Best to cut the comms asap in my view. They have too much detail on you than they should and the last thing you need is a vindictive kunnt taking it further.

Yeah but - the vindictive kunnt lives in Asia and you are the 100,000 person of the 1,000,000 people his call centre has called, playing him along.
I have no facts to back it up but I strongly suspect that the type of crims that do cyber crime are the one least likely to want to get involved in any physical situations.

I too love stringing them along when I have the time - love it at the end when they realise and call you a mother****er as they hang up ....

Official Old Man · Dec 23, 2020

Shoved this here rather than a new thread.
An old gentleman, guess late 70's, came in to my shop looking for a bitcoin machine that is in the shop next door. Further questioning and he had £2000 cash (he showed me) and a bit coin number he had to put it into. He was very agitated but determined.
Alarm bells rang loud.
I tried to dissuade him but he said he had to pay it in. He left but went next door and found the machine. I could see him on his phone trying to pay the money into the bit coin machine. I managed to attract a police car and they too went in to stop him. They failed and couldn't contact any of his relatives.
I just hope it wasn't a scam but sadly I believe the old guy has thrown away £2000 that he didn't look like he could afford.

rippleman · Dec 23, 2020

Weststander said:
Have you ever had the opportunity to chat with telephone scammers? It may be water off a duck’s back to them, but depending on my mood, I’ve wasted their time with wind ups, other times abusing them verbally (not in my nature at all .... except with those tossers).

Just be careful. Whilst scambaiting is a fun and sometimes hilarious way to spend time, many scammers are at the lower end of OCGs.

Always bait anonymously (I would suggest setting up a new email address for scambaiting) and NEVER give anything to a scammer that could help identify you.

For those who want to see how to scambait safely (and have a good laugh)

www.419eater.com

dejavuatbtn · Dec 23, 2020

I quite enjoy the opportunity to chat with these people. Always interests me if their mothers know what they do for a living or what their religious beliefs are. But I must confess it usually ends up with me directing a volley of bile at them and waiting for the clunk when they eventually hang up.

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