[Albion] After 12 games, Albion's four Premier League seasons

Bozza · Dec 14, 2020

One game on from the last thread are we doing any better (spoiler: after a 3-0 defeat, the answer is kinda obvious)...

Position
2017-18 9th
2018-19 12th
2019-20 11th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18 16
2018-19 14
2019-20 15
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18 0
2018-19 -5
2019-20 -2
2020-21 -6

Goals Scored
2017-18 13
2018-19 13
2019-20 15
2020-21 15

Goals Conceded
2017-18 13
2018-19 18
2019-20 17
2020-21 21

Luke93 · Dec 14, 2020

I usually love stats.

I don’t like those ones.

Barnham Seagull · Dec 14, 2020

Pretty damming really, Potter needs 6 points from the next two games or the crowd will turn. I’m convinced many still cutting him slack would not be if we had all had to sit through the many poor home performances.

Equal blame needs laying at the recruitment team or this above and we haven’t really helped Chris or Potter.

We can’t defend and we can’t score!

The Fits · Dec 14, 2020

Barnham Seagull said:
Pretty damming really, Potter needs 6 points from the next two games or the crowd will turn. I’m convinced many still cutting him slack would not be if we had all had to sit through the many poor home performances.

Equal blame needs laying at the recruitment team or this above and we haven’t really helped Chris or Potter.

We can’t defend and we can’t score!

It wouldn't be a particularly nice atmosphere in a full Amex ATM.

Stato · Dec 14, 2020

We've played seven of the top eight, taking only one point from a possible twenty one those games, with -10GD. We've taken nine points from a possible fifteen in the other five games, not losing any of them with a +4 GD. Its been a very tough start. We need to start to show a bit of steel in the next few as we're perfectly capable of beating the teams around us.

London Irish · Dec 14, 2020

Potter certainly needs at least one win from the next two games against teams in the bottom 3 or the majority will turn

pastafarian · Dec 14, 2020

Well that just makes matters worse, cheers Bozza

Stato said:
We've played seven of the top eight, taking only one point from a possible twenty one those games, with -10GD. We've taken nine points from a possible fifteen in the other five games, not losing any of them with a +4 GD. Its been a very tough start. We need to start to show a bit of steel in the next few as we're perfectly capable of beating the teams around us.

on the plus side though

lizard · Dec 14, 2020

London Irish said:
Potter certainly needs at least one win from the next two games against teams in the bottom 3 or the majority will turn

I think losing to Sheff U will be the turning point. Can't see more than a point against Fulham if we can get it.

OzMike · Dec 14, 2020

Tony will only put up with so much, even he has his limits.

fosters headband · Dec 14, 2020

OzMike said:
Tony will only put up with so much, even he has his limits.

Sorry I don’t agree. Do you remember Sammy H who without doubt had more fans wanting his head than Potter currently. Did T B do the the deed No !, In fact when Sammy resigned TB begged him to stay
So I am sure TB won’t give Potter the elbow after he has given him such a long contract, he and his advisers would have a lot of egg on face I’m afraid

Clive Walker · Dec 14, 2020

Bozza said:
One game on from the last thread are we doing any better (spoiler: after a 3-0 defeat, the answer is kinda obvious)...

Position
2017-18 9th
2018-19 12th
2019-20 11th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18 16
2018-19 14
2019-20 15
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18 0
2018-19 -5
2019-20 -2
2020-21 -6

Goals Scored
2017-18 13
2018-19 13
2019-20 15
2020-21 15

Goals Conceded
2017-18 13
2018-19 18
2019-20 17
2020-21 21

Progress?

Clive Walker · Dec 14, 2020

Removing CH was the right decision. Hiring GP was a gamble and extending his contract so soon was like ‘going all in’ with a pair of 9’s.

Looking like a mistake to me.

Mo Gosfield · Dec 14, 2020

Stato said:
We've played seven of the top eight, taking only one point from a possible twenty one those games, with -10GD. We've taken nine points from a possible fifteen in the other five games, not losing any of them with a +4 GD. Its been a very tough start. We need to start to show a bit of steel in the next few as we're perfectly capable of beating the teams around us.

What....like West Brom and Burnley!

Having seen Fulham run Liverpool ragged in the first half and the confidence that Burnley's win at Arsenal will generate, doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope that we are going to keep out of the bottom three. We are a lightweight, pretty side, lacking steel and grit ( Bissouma excepted ) with no punch upfront and now conceding nearly two goals a game on average.

There are too many errors within the side. Pass after pass given away. Maupay and Connolly cannot hold the ball in forward positions and we are expecting lots of goals from a striker with a career hit rate of 1/5-6. The BDB experiment ( which is what it is ) should have been shelved many months ago. The manager now seems confused about his best CB formation and is showing every sign of not having a clue what is his best starting eleven Without the ball, we seem incapable of closing people down and it seems as if all the emphasis on moving the ball forward at every opportunity has been at the expense of defensive organisation.

I have grave doubts about the calibre of Potter's back up team, as the same mistakes keep being made, over and over again. In trying to develop a totally new style of football, pleasing on the eye but not particularly effective, it feels like we have overlooked some of the principles that are likely to keep us in the division. The manager is going to have to find a new way of mixing and matching styles and trying to grind out results. Not easy but its the only way we will have a chance of staying up.

Johnny RoastBeef · Dec 14, 2020

Bozza said:
One game on from the last thread are we doing any better (spoiler: after a 3-0 defeat, the answer is kinda obvious)...

Position
2017-18 9th
2018-19 12th
2019-20 11th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18 16
2018-19 14
2019-20 15
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18 0
2018-19 -5
2019-20 -2
2020-21 -6

Goals Scored
2017-18 13
2018-19 13
2019-20 15
2020-21 15

Goals Conceded
2017-18 13
2018-19 18
2019-20 17
2020-21 21

A bit of perspective is only 3 of those 12 matches were against bottom half teams. These are the games we will be targeting.

We picked up 5 points out of 9 in those 3 matches. Scoring 4 and conceding 1.

Mo Gosfield · Dec 14, 2020

Clive Walker said:
Removing CH was the right decision. Hiring GP was a gamble and extending his contract so soon was like ‘going all in’ with a pair of 9’s.

Looking like a mistake to me.

Fans are now starting to examine how tactically astute Potter actually is. We keep hearing about his attributes as a deep thinker ( reminds me of Sven ) but it doesn't require a deep thinker to realise that all the emphasis in our play is when we are in possession. We are poorly coached out of possession. We stand off players, give too much space and leave huge holes where there shouldn't be holes. We are brittle and very beatable.
It was a gamble to massively extend his contract before he had really proved himself. Now he has to show more flexibility and get some basics back into our play. If it takes ugliness to get serious points off Fulham and Sheff U, so be it.

dejavuatbtn · Dec 14, 2020

I don’t like zonal marking!

Justice · Dec 14, 2020

fosters headband said:
Sorry I don’t agree. Do you remember Sammy H who without doubt had more fans wanting his head than Potter currently. Did T B do the the deed No !, In fact when Sammy resigned TB begged him to stay
So I am sure TB won’t give Potter the elbow after he has given him such a long contract, he and his advisers would have a lot of egg on face I’m afraid

TB undoubtedly a great businessman not so good at making football decisions. Hires a scouting network yet doesn’t seem to trust them, bottles every signing £20m +. Fat Ashley a man hated by Newcastle fans still gave the manager a budget and players to keep them a stable PL side just don’t get it.

zefarelly · Dec 14, 2020

Mo Gosfield said:
What....like West Brom and Burnley!
Having seen Fulham run Liverpool ragged in the first half and the confidence that Burnley's win at Arsenal will generate, doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope that we are going to keep out of the bottom three. We are a lightweight, pretty side, lacking steel and grit ( Bissouma excepted ) with no punch upfront and now conceding nearly two goals a game on average.
There are too many errors within the side. Pass after pass given away. Maupay and Connolly cannot hold the ball in forward positions and we are expecting lots of goals from a striker with a career hit rate of 1/5-6. The BDB experiment ( which is what it is ) should have been shelved many months ago. The manager now seems confused about his best CB formation and is showing every sign of not having a clue what is his best starting eleven Without the ball, we seem incapable of closing people down and it seems as if all the emphasis on moving the ball forward at every opportunity has been at the expense of defensive organisation.
I have grave doubts about the calibre of Potter's back up team, as the same mistakes keep being made, over and over again. In trying to develop a totally new style of football, pleasing on the eye but not particularly effective, it feels like we have overlooked some of the principles that are likely to keep us in the division. The manager is going to have to find a new way of mixing and matching styles and trying to grind out results. Not easy but its the only way we will have a chance of staying up.

Dear Mo.

SPOT ON..

If we don't knuckle down and find a way to win a few games before new year, it's going to be a cold hard winter with relegation when the Daffodils pop up.

zefarelly · Dec 14, 2020

dejavuatbtn said:
I don’t like zonal marking!

neither do the players by the look of it.

withdeanwombat · Dec 14, 2020

It’s the ridiculous blue shirts with daft collars.

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