[Other Sport] Anthony Joshua

crodonilson · Dec 8, 2020

Who else has ordered the big fight on Saturday night? Was a bit taken aback at first to see the £24.95 cost but the opportunity to see the peoples champion for the first time in nearly a year I am sure it will still get massive viewing figures. AJ is massively popular so people will stump up the cash and hopefully roar him on to another historic victory as he seeks to unify the heavyweight titles.

Is it PotG? · Dec 8, 2020

Can't alas, I have to worm the cat.

Arthur · Dec 8, 2020

I'm only using black businesses at his request and last time I checked Rupert Murdoch was a weasley white chap.

neilbard · Dec 8, 2020

crodonilson said:
Who else has ordered the big fight on Saturday night? Was a bit taken aback at first to see the £24.95 cost but the opportunity to see the peoples champion for the first time in nearly a year I am sure it will still get massive viewing figures. AJ is massively popular so people will stump up the cash and hopefully roar him on to another historic victory as he seeks to unify the heavyweight titles.

The Wizard · Dec 8, 2020

£24.95 to watch him fight another easy win? He’s a champion dodger that’s for sure.

Yawn.

Psychobilly freakout · Dec 8, 2020

crodonilson said:
Who else has ordered the big fight on Saturday night? Was a bit taken aback at first to see the £24.95 cost

https://youtu.be/ZmopROxBnBU

crodonilson · Dec 8, 2020

The Wizard said:
£24.95 to watch him fight another easy win? He’s a champion dodger that’s for sure.

Yawn.

Bit harsh, doubt AJ would be the peoples champion if he was a 'champion dodger'.

Mancgull · Dec 8, 2020

Has Joshua ever fought a class fighter in their prime? Answer is no. Has Fury dodged anyone? No.
About time we saw them fight each other. I know who I’d back.

GT49er · Dec 8, 2020

crodonilson said:
Bit harsh, doubt AJ would be the peoples champion if he was a 'champion dodger'.

He obviously isn't some peoples' champion. Sky/PPV has taken boxing out of the mainstream - it's nice that the heavyweight champion is British, but getting excited about boxing beyond that?

Nah, not any more.

crodonilson · Dec 8, 2020

GT49er said:
He obviously isn't some peoples' champion. Sky/PPV has taken boxing out of the mainstream - it's nice that the heavyweight champion is British, but getting excited about boxing beyond that?

Nah, not any more.

You're wrong, Sky and Sanchez Bailey sat he's the people's champion and I think they know more about this then you and I.

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The Wizard · Dec 8, 2020

Since 2015 Joshua hasn’t fought anyone that he’s been anything less than a 1/10 favourite against, aside from old man past his prime Klitschko And even Ruiz the first fight he was 1/50 on to win. Until he beats the best he’s certainly not my ‘champion’

Modern boxing seems more about dodging fights you can very possibly lose, it’s not just Joshua but look at his last 10 fights, all fighters he’s clearly superior too, it gets dull. Probably waiting for Fury to be 40 before he takes that fight as well...

GT49er · Dec 8, 2020

crodonilson said:
You're wrong, Sky and Sanchez Bailey sat he's the people's champion and I think they know more about this then you and I.

Haven't heard of him/her. Their opinions don't matter to me. Boxing used to be a sport the whole world discussed in offices and factories the morning after a big fight.

Not any more. I doubt if more than 1 in 10 people could name any world champion at any weight, although a few would probably hazard a guess at Fury or Joshua. Boxing isn't a sport of the masses any more, whether you like it or not.
Thousands will know all about Tyson and Bruno and Hagler and Eubanks and Benn, etc, - but that was a generation ago (when it was available to everyone on terrestrial TV)! Just history now, for most people. Less of a work-place discussion topic than The Voice, or Get Me Out of Here.

crodonilson · Dec 8, 2020

GT49er said:
Haven't heard of him/her. Their opinions don't matter to me. Boxing used to be a sport the whole world discussed in offices and factories the morning after a big fight.

Not any more. I doubt if more than 1 in 10 people could name any world champion at any weight, although a few would probably hazard a guess at Fury or Joshua. Boxing isn't a sport of the masses any more, whether you like it or not.
Thousands will know all about Tyson and Bruno and Hagler and Eubanks and Benn, etc, - but that was a generation ago (when it was available to everyone on terrestrial TV)! Just history now, for most people. Less of a work-place discussion topic than The Voice, or Get Me Out of Here.

Sorry I think you're wrong with AJ, he is massively popular. Despite high ticket prices he sells out everywhere he goes and has commanded some of the biggest audiences in boxing history. He could sell out Wembley Stadium many times over, he is an excellent role model for his legion of fans and that's why he's the people's champion. I don't think there are many people in the UK who don't know who AJ is.

Albion Dan · Dec 8, 2020

Not paying to watch yet another AJ mismatch. Can’t wait till Fury takes him apart. It’s going to be beautiful.

Pint of Ale and a Burger · Dec 8, 2020

Boxing is another sport sky have killed.
Why do we have to pay to watch our own British fighter FFS.
He should be on ITV or BBC.

Pint of Ale and a Burger · Dec 8, 2020

GT49er said:
Haven't heard of him/her. Their opinions don't matter to me. Boxing used to be a sport the whole world discussed in offices and factories the morning after a big fight.

Not any more. I doubt if more than 1 in 10 people could name any world champion at any weight, although a few would probably hazard a guess at Fury or Joshua. Boxing isn't a sport of the masses any more, whether you like it or not.
Thousands will know all about Tyson and Bruno and Hagler and Eubanks and Benn, etc, - but that was a generation ago (when it was available to everyone on terrestrial TV)! Just history now, for most people. Less of a work-place discussion topic than The Voice, or Get Me Out of Here.

This,
Sky have turned boxing into a niche sport rather than something the whole country was buzzing about in the old days.

Weststander · Dec 8, 2020

Albion Dan said:
Not paying to watch yet another AJ mismatch. Can’t wait till Fury takes him apart. It’s going to be beautiful.

Why the animosity towards AJ, he comes across as decent person?

I like them both.

GT49er · Dec 9, 2020

crodonilson said:
Sorry I think you're wrong with AJ, he is massively popular. Despite high ticket prices he sells out everywhere he goes and has commanded some of the biggest audiences in boxing history. He could sell out Wembley Stadium many times over, he is an excellent role model for his legion of fans and that's why he's the people's champion. I don't think there are many people in the UK who don't know who AJ is.

Thousands now. Thirty or forty years ago, in the days when boxing was a national sport rather than a PPV niche one, those thousands would nave been millions.

dangull · Dec 9, 2020

England 2003 winning World Cup rugby player diagnosed with dementia in his 40's, the same as some of the 1966 World Cup football winning team.
Not sure if I should be watching high profile boxing matches, but its something I enjoy. They deserve all the money they get.

Garry Nelson's Left Foot · Dec 9, 2020

The Wizard said:
Since 2015 Joshua hasn’t fought anyone that he’s been anything less than a 1/10 favourite against, aside from old man past his prime Klitschko And even Ruiz the first fight he was 1/50 on to win. Until he beats the best he’s certainly not my ‘champion’

Modern boxing seems more about dodging fights you can very possibly lose, it’s not just Joshua but look at his last 10 fights, all fighters he’s clearly superior too, it gets dull. Probably waiting for Fury to be 40 before he takes that fight as well...

I really don't understand this attitude.

Joshua has had 24 professional fights. In his last ten he has:

fought Dillian Whyte and won the British title.
fought Charles Martin and won the IBF world title
fought two easy defences.
fought Klitschko and won the WBO and IBO world titles
retained his titles in a mandatory defence against Carlos Takam, a two week replacement for Pulev.
fought Joseph Parker and won the WBA world title to go with his other world titles.
Fought Povetkin in a mandatory defence
Fought Andy Ruiz, another short term replacement, and lost.
Fought a re-match against Ruiz and won back all his titles.

Now he's fighting Pulev in another mandatory defence.

So in his last ten fights he has won the british title and three world titles(four if you count the IBO, which most people don't) and had mandatory defences. He lost one of those fights and had the rematch to get the titles back. Now he's in another mandatory defence.

Who exactly during those ten fights was he supposed to fight that is better than he has? The fights we all want to see are against Wilder and Fury. Wilder isn't going to happen because Wilder really is a champion dodger. Fury? There hasn't really been a realistic opportunity yet. It was never going to happen when Fury fought Wilder and since then we've had to wait on the first rematch and then for the second rematch clause to expire.

I think it's unfair to say that Joshua is a dodger. He has fought a consistently high calibre of opponent, higher on average than anyone else in the division. Yet he's the one that gets all the stick.

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