darkwolf666
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We ain’t going anywhere and are having chicken instead of our usual turkey... oh well, good news for the chicken farmers instead...
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[News] Christmas COVID rules fresh from the horses' mouths
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We ain’t going anywhere and are having chicken instead of our usual turkey... oh well, good news for the chicken farmers instead...
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
- 17,077
Sadly agree. It's against the law to murder someone but thousands ignore that too. I'm Team Safe but there's plenty in Team
In summary, people must die and have always done so because of the selfish actions of others. Unfair, but then when was life anything but?!
The ironic thing is that my Dad, as an ex-bank manager, is an absolute stickler for the rules. First lockdown my parents observed - I even did their shopping for them as they're vulnerable. For this lockdown he said "I damned if I'm going to let a two bit government tell me what I can or can't do with my family in my twilight years.". So they've been round a few times.
Why photocopy your a**e when you can screenshot it!
From day one in every democracy, it’s always been unashamedly NOT just based on science.
If it was, Germans and Brits would’ve been kept locked up indoors as in Wuhan, food delivered by the army, until vaccines have been administered to all.
It’s openly been a balance of epidemiology, and:
1. What’s sustainable for a free thinking and free acting population? Will law/rules actually be taken seriously? Brits haven’t the compliant nature of the Chinese, Taiwanese and Koreans to 100% abide by laws for as long as it takes.
2. Mental health, the oppression of not seeing family and friends, from seeing all favourite activities closed.
3. Business and livelihoods. Economies would go bankrupt, countless businesses would sink without a trace, lifetime work destroyed, with an endless lockdown.
No doubt sadly there will be a further spike in cases and deaths, but there are many people including on NSC who said they were going to ignore the laws anyway.
To me this is a decent compromise. All four nations are in agreement.
Spot on. Great post.
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
- 19,633
Christmas covid rules = a veneer of authority whilst people who want to do whatever they want to do do whatever they want to do.
I kind of assumed that this tier system that could be in place til march is lockdown in all but name anyway especially in the top tier
- Jul 7, 2003
- 47,221
Not so much for turkeys.
I don't think the government believe everyone will obey the rules, or that it can be policed... I think they are saying what they think a government should be heard to say.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Must be a first
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Totally agree
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
Not going to bother with Christmas at all.
GT49er
Well-known member
Many people will interpret this as 'We can mix with three other households' - and one of those households might be an elderly vulnerable relative who's shielded for months and generally followed all the rules, but who is delighted to be allowed to meet the kids and grandchildren for the first time in months. Wonder how many of those people who have lived in isolation, or near isolation, for months will then die of Covid brought in from one of the other two households in their relatives' bubble.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,201
Don't reckon it'll be family bubbles that are the problem over xmas so much as amateur hour in the pubs
Sorrel
Well-known member
That will depend how much people are thinking of this and are preparing for the visit by avoid interaction and time with others for a while beforehand.
Why do we think that people wouldn't be careful? The whole point of the rules we have now are to provide a framework so that people can take care and this gives those who have taken care a legal way to meet others.
Yes, there will be those who won't follow the rules - in different ways, in spirit, to the letter, whatever - but if people won't follow the rules what's the purpose in arguing for them to be different? Surely the reason is because in general people are following the rules, reasonably closely.
GT49er
Well-known member
Are they? And will they when restrictions are relaxed?
Some will. I predict many won't.
Who then take CV19 home to grandparents.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,201
Yup, it's not far off being on a par with releasing untested patients from hospitals into care homes at the start of the pandemic
I think if it's just one household, it will depend what tier you are in. After all, one household could go on holiday before lockdown 2. Meeting another household is less clear. Me and my wife have booked a cottage with one friend who lives alone. We may, or may not, be allowed to go - we'll see. But if we do, it means we can't also have a meal with my father-in-law (unless he comes with us.....).