[Football] Penalties

amexer · Nov 21, 2020

It was not long ago that a penalty either for a foul or handball.was a rarity The odd one spectators may disagree with but very few. The game was much better for it. There seems to be so many now and am sure everybody doesnt want to continue seeing so many games decided by a penalty.
Anyway reason for this post, has anybody got info on yearly comparisons on no of penalties awarded.

blue-shifted · Nov 21, 2020

Way too many.

I'd trial penalties to be abolished and see free kicks awarded in the penalty area.

Takes pressure of the officials and stops disproportionate punishments for fouls in positions where there is little chance of a goal

CaptainDaveUK · Nov 21, 2020

Apparently number of penalties currently on course to treble this season!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...remier-league-penalties-course-treble-season/

Is it PotG? · Nov 21, 2020

CaptainDaveUK said:
Apparently number of penalties currently on course to treble this season!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...remier-league-penalties-course-treble-season/

Apart from the obvious WBA one.....

BN41Albion · Nov 21, 2020

CaptainDaveUK said:
Apparently number of penalties currently on course to treble this season!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...remier-league-penalties-course-treble-season/

Just goes to show what a joke VAR and the pissing around with rules has been. Really hope things change for the better again next season, its really ruining football, and I'm saying that despite today's overturned decision in our favour

darkwolf666 · Nov 21, 2020

blue-shifted said:
Way too many.

I'd trial penalties to be abolished and see free kicks awarded in the penalty area.

Takes pressure of the officials and stops disproportionate punishments for fouls in positions where there is little chance of a goal

If there’s little chance of a goal and a penalty offence is committed then that’s just poor defending and deserves the punishment...

Weststander · Nov 21, 2020

Once the FA went down the continental route of allowing a mere touch as a foul, drawing a foul or contact seen as a art-form, that was THE game changer.

But it wasn’t overnight. Rooney was a master, so it’s been around a while. Pre-VAR.

Sutton and Collymore were the last two pundits I can remember calling out divers. Now pundits regularly saying that, would be eased out of their jobs .... seen as miserable.

All that’s happened is that football in these isles has fallen into line with the art-form (cheating) of overseas football.

amexer · Nov 21, 2020

Not much good about VAR and penalties but it is a big improvement that final decision is now made by Ref

portlock seagull · Nov 21, 2020

Long advocated the penalty box should be substantially reduced. The sheer volume of players diving, or looking for fouls on the edge goal line or now kicking the ball at an opponents hand when really, they pose no threat or chance of scoring from said position is out of control. Cheating in a word. Gamesmanship or clever if you’re the chosen pundit making a cock of yourself post match trying to defend it.

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 21, 2020

blue-shifted said:
Way too many.

I'd trial penalties to be abolished and see free kicks awarded in the penalty area.

Takes pressure of the officials and stops disproportionate punishments for fouls in positions where there is little chance of a goal

I’d change the law so penalties are only given for very obvious fouls in the box I.e. player has to be properly and clearly tripped or bundled to the floor etc. This would soon put a stop to players falling over from a slight touch.

Gazwag · Nov 21, 2020

Did they say earlier Man U have had 28 pens post lockdown

jessiejames · Nov 21, 2020

It's not just penalties though, free kicks are given if you slid in and make the minimal touch on the ball then bring the player down, people believe that is a foul.

As long as you make contact with the ball first, what happens next does not matter.

beorhthelm · Nov 21, 2020

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’d change the law so penalties are only given for very obvious fouls in the box I.e. player has to be properly and clearly tripped or bundled to the floor etc. This would soon put a stop to players falling over from a slight touch.

thought this used to be the interpretation, i'm sure it was supposed to be for a preventing a goal scoring opportunity. now its touching a player in the box . not sure if there was ever an actual change of rules or just refs used to be lax.

One Love · Nov 21, 2020

I'd like to go back to the days when penalties are only given for clear denial of a goal.

So many games decided by teams with a penalty when they wouldn't have scored from normal play if they played all day.

drew · Nov 22, 2020

One Love said:
I'd like to go back to the days when penalties are only given for clear denial of a goal.

So many games decided by teams with a penalty when they wouldn't have scored from normal play if they played all day.

When was that then because I've been going for 45 years and during that time that was never the rule!

drew · Nov 22, 2020

jessiejames said:
It's not just penalties though, free kicks are given if you slid in and make the minimal touch on the ball then bring the player down, people believe that is a foul.

As long as you make contact with the ball first, what happens next does not matter.

Don't think that is quite right. If you slide in recklessly, getting the ball first but putting the opponent in danger then yes, it's a foul but if you take the Ben White interception where he slid in to concede a corner just before Watkins pulled the trigger but slightly caught Watkins after clearing then no one was claiming that's a penalty.

drew · Nov 22, 2020

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’d change the law so penalties are only given for very obvious fouls in the box I.e. player has to be properly and clearly tripped or bundled to the floor etc. This would soon put a stop to players falling over from a slight touch.

Don't need to change the law, just the interpretation. Contact should only lead to a penalty if it involves sufficient force to cause a player to go down rather than them throwing themselves at the ground. Today, there is no doubt March got the ball first but there is doubt that he even touched Trezeguet and even if he did contact was extremely light and not enough to poleaxe him.

Arthritic Toe · Nov 22, 2020

I would change the rule so if a player takes actions to exaggerate the contact, it is a free kick to the other team, regardless of whether its a foul or not.

Easy 10 · Nov 22, 2020

The fact that Oliver had to go to a monitor to change his decision (and credit to him for that) should then, IMO, have resulted in a yellow card for Trezueget for conning a penalty out of him. If not on the day, then retrospectively.

Only then might we see a reduction in the dying swan acts when players feel a slight breeze on their sock.

Uh_huh_him · Nov 22, 2020

Easy 10 said:
The fact that Oliver had to go to a monitor to change his decision (and credit to him for that) should then, IMO, have resulted in a yellow card for Trezueget for conning a penalty out of him. If not on the day, then retrospectively.

Only then might we see a reduction in the dying swan acts when players feel a slight breeze on their sock.

"Slight breeze on their sock"?!?!!

I'm reliably informed by Villa fans and management that:

"You could see Trezueget's shin pad buckled from the force of the challenge"

and

"You could hear the contact all around the ground"

No wonder they are so angry about this grave miscarriage of justice.

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