[Albion] Worst performing bottom three sides for a while

Bozza · Nov 19, 2020

I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

Thunder Bolt · Nov 19, 2020

Goal difference is also far better, as it has been for the last few seasons.

Mr Putdown · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

Is that assuming that you would have had a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season?

blue-shifted · Nov 19, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
Goal difference is also far better, as it has been for the last few seasons.

Because we've been competitive in 90%+ of games no matter the opposition. Not many of the habitual bottom half teams can claim that

Nathan · Nov 19, 2020

How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

Bold Seagull · Nov 19, 2020

Nathan said:
How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

Last 2 PL seasons 2 of the bottom 3 after 8 games have gone down.

Bozza · Nov 19, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
Is that assuming that you would have had a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season?

No, it's because we DO have a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season.

Hope this helps.

Bozza · Nov 19, 2020

Nathan said:
How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

neilbard · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

Nathan said:
How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

2012-13 QPR and Reading Relegated

2013-14 Norwich Relegated

2014-15 QPR and Burnley Relegated

2015-16 Newcastle and Villa Relegated

2016-17 Sunderland Relegated

2017-18 No side relegated

2018-19 Cardiff and Huddersfield Relegated

2019-20 Norwich and Watford Relegated

Nathan · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.

Goldstone1976 · Nov 19, 2020

Nathan said:
So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.

I wonder what percentage of the other 50% came from the next three teams up the league?

Asking for a friend.

Papa Lazarou · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

I'm obviously having a 'moment' but what does the number after the year represent? e.g. 2020 - 6

Right Back · Nov 19, 2020

Total points for the 3 clubs.

Barham's tash · Nov 19, 2020

Great statage [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION].

Respective runs of fixtures look tough all round:

Burnley:

Sheff Utd:

Fulham:

So it could be a rosy looking Christmas if we manage to snaffle 4-6 points from our games:

Easy right?! [emoji28]

Papa Lazarou · Nov 19, 2020

Right Back said:
Total points for the 3 clubs.

Thanks.

schmunk · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

Nathan said:
So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.

I reckon this season it'll be Burnley and North-West Brom.

Mr Putdown · Nov 19, 2020

Bozza said:
No, it's because we DO have a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season.

Hope this helps.

It does.

I, wrongly, assumed you hadn’t gone to that level of detail.

A1X · Nov 19, 2020

This is probably just as well TBH

Pint of Ale and a Burger · Nov 19, 2020

Barham's tash said:
Great statage [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION].

Respective runs of fixtures look tough all round:

Burnley:

Sheff Utd:

Fulham:

So it could be a rosy looking Christmas if we manage to snaffle 4-6 points from our games:

Easy right?! [emoji28]

I have a feeling we are going to beat Liverpool.
If we get three points against them then suddenly 4-6 points looks very achievable with the other fixtures shown.i reckon we will get about 7-8 points from those fixtures if we beat Liverpool .

durrington gull · Nov 19, 2020

I think Burnley n Sheff Utd will pickup and stay up

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