Bold Seagull
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Other than all the children's charities he endorses and donates to as well as his own Lewis Hamilton Foundation charity?
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[Politics] Should Lewis Hamilton be knighted?
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Other than all the children's charities he endorses and donates to as well as his own Lewis Hamilton Foundation charity?
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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Paddy Lowe disagrees with you.
Button won 8 races(more than he did in the rest of his career), had 25 podiums(the same number as in the rest of his career) and finished 5th, 2nd and 5th in the championship in the three years he was Hamilton's team mate. I'm not entirely convinced that's the back of the grid.
Alsonso won four races, 12 podiums and finished third in the championship in his one season at McClaren. He led the championship for a large duration of it. Again, I'm not wholly convinced that that equates to being 'eaten' by the team.
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni61585999
He also donated $500,000 to help fight the Australian bush fires in January.
Can he have a knighthood now?
Bold Seagull
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He would already have one if he was Jenson Button or David Coulthard with 7 World Titles
It goes some way to proving the argument some are in denial about.
Iggle Piggle
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More or less everything you have written is incorrect so congratulations on that. I'll pick you up on Button as the charity stuff has been done. He finished 5th in the drivers Championship in 2010 (his first year at Mclaren) and 2nd in 2011 in his second. He was hardly trundling round at the back of the grid
T.G
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Absolutely nothing to do with race. Hamilton was the subject of this discussion. Anyone who avoids taxes is morally repugnant whatever their colour or race. Just to be clear as I said in the last misunderstanding the repugnant comment was for the political reasons behind leaving the EU. However, that aside any wealthy person that declines to pay reasonable taxes (whether it is legal or otherwise) I would find morally repugnant, whilst they enjoy this privilege of wealth our keyworkers are denied pay rises and the NHS goes underfunded.
In your original post you said exploiting tax loopholes was morally repugnant.
Now by saying avoiding taxes, you’ve widened the discussion to perfectly legal tax avoidance or mitigation. This includes a wide range of legal tax planning measures such as pension contribution planning, moving assets between spouses, taking a larger bonus in one year rather than two because of our tax bands, and countless others.
None of which affects Hamilton, who like a couple of million other Brits chooses to live overseas for most of the year. Yet this hasn’t stopped him being one of the UK’s highest taxpayers on his UK income. In chose to live in a tax haven, as have many famous and honoured Brits, yet never a NSC thread or post criticising their tax affairs, where they choose to live.
If someone can direct me to an old thread of tax morality ire against Poulter or Faldo or J.Stewart or Roger Moore or Coutlhard or Button, I’d be very interested.
So, why is Hamilton (and Hamilton alone) choosing to reside overseas, such an issue to half a dozen NSC’ers? What sets him apart?
Yes but apart from all that....
The casual/ignored racism is unreal and quite disturbing isn't it?
Hampster Gull
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Nail on head mate.
Bold Seagull
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So he's decided to live abroad, I must admit the Cote d'azur strikes me as an attractive place to live with or without the tax breaks, but still pays tax in the UK when actually you could assume all his earnings could be paid to him abroad if he so wished?
GT49er
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The longer this thread goes on, the less I give a sh*t either way, tbh.
Icy Gull
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Hamilton uses his experiences and profile to highlight and try and change the prejudices so clear on this thread, most of those you mention just took the money and lived the life of Riley, whilst being easy to interview (for the most part) and avoiding controversy.
How dare Hamilton take advantage of not even being a real sportsman whilst having the best car and driving around in circles to express his often unpopular opinions.
Hampster Gull
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"But no matter how often you go abroad or elsewhere in the world, you come back to the UK, see the countryside, this great history of Formula One, and I see my family. This is where my heart is. I am fully British.
"I guess over time I will do more positive things for the country. I go to these races and I lift the British flag proudly. There is no one else in this sport that has raised it so high.“ H, 2019
"I guess over time I will do more positive things for the country. I go to these races and I lift the British flag proudly. There is no one else in this sport that has raised it so high.“ H, 2019
Bold Seagull
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Right now through this lockdown and the year just dragging on, Lewis Hamilton and Apple Airpods seem like very important issues to resolve!!
GT49er
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So bottle tops don't matter any more, eh? Huh!Right now through this lockdown and the year just dragging on, Lewis Hamilton and Apple Airpods seem like very important issues to resolve!!
As another F1 fan like me, you’ll be very aware of the racism he and his Dad faced in Spain for example in 2007 and 2008. Blatant, Spaniards dressed as apes, no doubt bitter than this young brilliant driver had emerged as the match to their hero.
No wonder in a climate of racism across Europe, he largely kept his counsel, the lone black guy.
One of the bizarre NSC arguments against LH is that he only recently stood up to racism, a JCL to BLM. Lots of acronyms! Who are we to criticise a victim of racism deciding when he has the courage to finally take a stand? Simply emboldened by the mood music, who can blame him?
T.G
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Nothing to do with the colour of his skin, why are you making such an issue about it? Its everything to do with him using an off shore (BVI) company to buy a £16 million pound jet and avoid paying tax on it. Probably perfectly legal but morally wrong. I would same the same about JRM and many of the other people in power who use loophole to avoid paying their fair share (and I frequently do on other forums). This was specifically about Hamilton receiving a knighthood. I don't think tax evaders should be rewarded/honoured. Just to be absolutely clear if this thread was about Phillip Green and his dodgy wife I would still be venting my spleen. I abhor racism on every level, but I'm not going to say tax evasion is ok because someones black!