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    What do we do about Ireland/NI, Tariff Free deal and Fishing


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    We are where we are and whatever has happened in the past is history. These are the three main issues which we, as a nation, have to resolve within the next couple of weeks.

    1. What is going to happen about the Ireland/NI border ?
    The withdrawal agreement had an Irish Sea border, but the Government have now said there will be no Irish sea procedures or documentation and the EU are accusing us of breaking International Law, so where should the border between the UK and EU be ?

    2. What is going to happen about a tariff free deal ?
    Why would the EU allow us tariff free access to all their huge markets with no control to stop our companies undercutting their companies by changing 'our' rules on Government subsidies, Animal welfare, Safety, Worker welfare, additives, preservatives etc etc ? The so-called Level Playing Field.

    3 What is going to happen about fishing.
    Given that the fishing industry exports the majority of it's catch, is tariff free access to the EU critical to the whole industry going forward ? And, given that it's a smaller part of the UK economy than Harrod's, how much consideration should be given to it.

    'No Deal' could be a solution to 2 & 3, but at quite significant cost and still doesn't resolve 1.

    These have to be resolved in the next couple of weeks, and neither myself or @Chicken Run could come up with any suggested solutions that would resolve these.

    It really doesn't matter what you voted or what anyone else did. Can anyone suggest a solution ?
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      And as @Baldseagull pointed out elsewhere, Theresa May's Customs Union also resolved points 2 & 3 but not 1. In order to resolve 1, she also required the backstop in NI as part of her solution.

      Any other suggestions ?
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      Watford bloke would be better off contacting the relevant authorities or his local MP for some form of clarification but old habits die hard for the Silly Billy ,keep on flogging
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      There is no good outcome for the UK from here, Johnson's cavalier approach to our Union of nations is coming home to roost

      If there is a deal it will be thin and good for EU exporters of goods but terrible for UK services plus there's a customs border in the Irish sea, its ECJ for NI but not for GB, that will be fun. Still convinced Johnson didn't read the WA he signed up to, what a wally

      If its no deal its bad news for Europe but worse for UK (1 of us, 27 of them), its not rocket science. Breaking International law and pissing off the new US president who is Irish and actually understands what the GFA is, what could go wrong? The Tories can try and blame the EU, JK Rowling, Gina Miller, Gary Lineker etc... that might go down well with English nativist DM readers but it won't change anything

      Will Johnson run away now his has lot his surrogate brain?

      Scottish Independence seems like quite an easy sell
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      3 things to remember:

      1. We hold all the aces.
      2. German car manufacturers need us more than we need them.
      3. We hold all the aces.
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      3 things to remember:

      1. We left the EU on 31st January 2020
      2. German car manufacturers need us more than we need them.
      3. We leave the EU rules and regulations on the 1st January 2021
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      There is no good outcome for the UK from here, Johnson's cavalier approach to our Union of nations is coming home to roost

      If there is a deal it will be thin and good for EU exporters of goods but terrible for UK services plus there's a customs border in the Irish sea, its ECJ for NI but not for GB, that will be fun. Still convinced Johnson didn't read the WA he signed up to, what a wally

      If its no deal its bad news for Europe but worse for UK (1 of us, 27 of them), its not rocket science. Breaking International law and pissing off the new US president who is Irish, what could go wrong? The Tories can try and blame the EU, JK Rowling, Gina Miller, Gary Lineker etc... that might go down well with English nativist DM readers but it won't change anything

      Will Johnson run away now his has lot his surrogate brain?
      Life must be a drag, chin up life moves on ,forget about the EU they're old news now
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