[Politics] Nationalisation of UK Railways in all but name.

Bold Seagull said:

So with everything else going on this has passed me by until last week on a Southern train to Three Bridges got chatting to a guard who went through all that had been happening.

Effectively our railways it would appear are nationalised in all but name. The franchise system is pretty much dead and was on it's way before the pandemic. The Tory party of course are not making any noise about this as for them it is not a good news story in terms of private enterprise running public services.

We have some rail experts on here, what is the general take on this?

https://www.ft.com/content/1baa6b50-47ba-416e-b172-90a77a34c19d
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/railways-public-sector-control-explained-nationalisation-department-for-transport-568501
https://www.railway-technology.com/features/explained-the-end-of-the-railway-franchising-system-in-the-uk/

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Bold Seagull said:

So with everything else going on this has passed me by until last week on a Southern train to Three Bridges got chatting to a guard who went through all that had been happening.

Effectively our railways it would appear are nationalised in all but name. The franchise system is pretty much dead and was on it's way before the pandemic. The Tory party of course are not making any noise about this as for them it is not a good news story in terms of private enterprise running public services.

We have some rail experts on here, what is the general take on this?

https://www.ft.com/content/1baa6b50-47ba-416e-b172-90a77a34c19d
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/railways-public-sector-control-explained-nationalisation-department-for-transport-568501
https://www.railway-technology.com/features/explained-the-end-of-the-railway-franchising-system-in-the-uk/

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Bold Seagull said:

So with everything else going on this has passed me by until last week on a Southern train to Three Bridges got chatting to a guard who went through all that had been happening.

Effectively our railways it would appear are nationalised in all but name. The franchise system is pretty much dead and was on it's way before the pandemic. The Tory party of course are not making any noise about this as for them it is not a good news story in terms of private enterprise running public services.

We have some rail experts on here, what is the general take on this?

https://www.ft.com/content/1baa6b50-47ba-416e-b172-90a77a34c19d
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/railways-public-sector-control-explained-nationalisation-department-for-transport-568501
https://www.railway-technology.com/features/explained-the-end-of-the-railway-franchising-system-in-the-uk/

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Hamilton said:

Wasn't it always nationalised? We just allowed some companies to cream off some profit.

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GT49er said:

Two links to invitations to subscribe to the FT not much help! Doesn't look like re-nationalisation at all - private companies still involved. Of course the franchise system was rubbish from day one, but the tories won't want to kick their chums out of the business. Fudge and fvck up incoming.

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The red pepper kid said:

Lets be honest service was poor and the fat cats were getting fatter , i don't know the correct answer but the companys have been letting employees go and not training or replacing them, the debate over guards etc and we still had to bay them out -jeez lets have more Indians and less chiefs .
Lets get toilets reopen down south and make our south coast line have trains with toilets -- the north show us up in that respect

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Not Andy Naylor said:

I was told by someone in the industry that companies got fined if toilets on trains didn't work, so they leased trains without toilets instead as it was cheaper than maintaining their trains properly. Customer service, eh?

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