[Football] Where it all started going wrong?

One Love · Oct 27, 2020

I think everyone must admit our form has dipped from the first few games where we were unlucky not to get anything against top sides.

For me the decline has been Potter feeling he has to act to avoid conceding from set pieces as we did all too much at the beginning of this season.

His answer was to bring in Burn at left back. Now I love the man but he's not a full back, he's a centre back. He's let Townsend have a free cross leading to the penalty at Palace. He's gone missing way out of position for the goal yesterday and he's let many crosses come in against him as well.

He's also decided to move White into defensive midfield. Whilst I think he's played well defensively, he's very inexperienced to be playing that role at the moment.

The result of these changes is that we look half the side we were at the start.

He needs to go back to the team and formation that was playing so well at the beginning of the season.

big nuts · Oct 27, 2020

He hasn’t brought Burn back as left back he has used him as left centre back pushing White into midfield.

The goal yesterday was after he switched to a flat back four with Burn playing left back but for 160 minutes out of the last 180 he has played in the back three not as a wing back.

portslade seagull · Oct 27, 2020

Playing one upfront, for whatever reason Maupay cannot play that role and Trossard not play the supporting striker slot, he is too slow and is better behind a front two

Clive Walker · Oct 27, 2020

If we fail to beat Burnley I’d call it a day with potter.

nicko31 · Oct 27, 2020

Clive Walker said:
If we fail to beat Burnley I’d call it a day with potter.

We had 45 mins of poor football, think we need to put things in perspective and need to learn from last night. Too early for panic

Wrong-Direction · Oct 27, 2020

When we got promoted

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AmexRuislip · Oct 27, 2020

Clive Walker said:
If we fail to beat Burnley I’d call it a day with potter.

Please don't say that, as you're feeding all the Potter out brigade......
Last nights second half display was not great, but the first half was, so there is still hope.
Don't forget, we'll sometimes struggle.
But I'd rather be an Albionite than A N Other :thumbsup:

neilbard · Oct 27, 2020

Where it all started going wrong?

29/12/2019 onwards,

1 home win, 6 home losses and 5 home draws

3 away wins, 4 away losses and 6 away draws

Jam The Man · Oct 27, 2020

Taking Lallana off when he’s clearly controlling the game didn’t help either.

Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ · Oct 27, 2020

Alzate out of midfield?

Clive Walker · Oct 27, 2020

nicko31 said:
We had 45 mins of poor football, think we need to put things in perspective and need to learn from last night. Too early for panic

Here’s my perspective. For all the nice football how many games have we won in 2020?

neilbard · Oct 27, 2020

nicko31 said:
We had 45 mins of poor football, think we need to put things in perspective and need to learn from last night. Too early for panic

Have you conveniently forgotten the equally poor displays against Sheffield Utd and Newcastle both at home last season.

I'm not bedwetting or panicking, no disputing Potter has made us look better but is that going to be enough in the long term, jury is still out.

brighton terra · Oct 27, 2020

AmexRuislip said:
Please don't say that, as you're feeding all the Potter out brigade......
Last nights second half display was not great, but the first half was, so there is still hope.
Don't forget, we'll sometimes struggle.
But I'd rather be an Albionite than A N Other

What worries me more than anything else are the changes Potter made to try and combat WBA from taking control of the game. They were ineffective and he appeared to be completely out-foxed by Bilic in the 2nd half.

Clive Walker · Oct 27, 2020

AmexRuislip said:
Please don't say that, as you're feeding all the Potter out brigade......
Last nights second half display was not great, but the first half was, so there is still hope.
Don't forget, we'll sometimes struggle.
But I'd rather be an Albionite than A N Other

It’s a results business. We are some way away from getting bonus points for possession abd passing stats. The first 45 mins was 3rd gear. He needs to get them to play at 4th or 5th consistently. The second half was in reverse. Results have been poor for a long time changing that is the only thing that would save us.

Seasider78 · Oct 27, 2020

Poor finishing is the problem we have had the chances to comfortably win games this season but have not taken them and that is why we are struggling.

neilbard · Oct 27, 2020

Clive Walker said:
Here’s my perspective. For all the nice football how many games have we won in 2020?

Home games 1 (Arsenal)

Away games 2 (Norwich, Burnley)

Nice football, similar outcomes to the previous manager.

Potter needs to step up, he walked into this Premier League job with no experience, he now needs to prove he is worthy of Bloom's bold decision.

One Teddy Maybank · Oct 27, 2020

big nuts said:
He hasn’t brought Burn back as left back he has used him as left centre back pushing White into midfield.

The goal yesterday was after he switched to a flat back four with Burn playing left back but for 160 minutes out of the last 180 he has played in the back three not as a wing back.

Agree, but by removing Solly Burn had no protection.
Doesn’t change the fact Burn inexplicably chased space rather drop back into shape on their goal.

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AmexRuislip · Oct 27, 2020

brighton terra said:
What worries me more than anything else are the changes Potter made to try and combat WBA from taking control of the game. They were ineffective and he appeared to be completely out-foxed by Bilic in the 2nd half.

Agree, but its how GP is going to learn.
IMO Alzate should've come on earlier to replace Lallana instead of Gross.

nicko31 · Oct 27, 2020

neilbard said:
Have you conveniently forgotten the equally poor displays against Sheffield Utd and Newcastle both at home last season.

I'm not bedwetting or panicking, no disputing Potter has made us look better but is that going to be enough in the long term, jury is still out.

That was last season, on the whole we've been playing well this season just not getting the rub of the green. If we play like last night for the next 3 games I'll be worried. Personally I don't think that will happen

Reddleman · Oct 27, 2020

I think Potter spends a little too much time worrying about the opposition and changing the side to suit. Ben White is a good player but has played in DM four times for Leeds and we thrust him in there with far better and more experienced players for that position on the bench. Let’s worry about us imposing ourselves on games. Last night I would rather he had brought Connolly on to give WBA another problem, as per Watford away last season.

He needs to stop being quite so loyal. Maupay needs a spell on the bench. I think the fact that Maupay is such a good footballer and suits Potters style that it blinds him to the fact that currently his finishing is not up to scratch. His two bad misses in last two games have arguably cost us 4 points.

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