[Football] Future VAR referees

The Large One said:

There isn't supposed to be 'an English representative'. It's not as though England has guaranteed spaces for match officials for each tournament. It doesn't.

Secondly, even Clattenburg himself wasn't guaranteed a spot in Russia. He was on a long-list drawn up in 2016, (which Clattenburg removed himself from in early 2017). The next person on the list after Clattenburg from England was Michael Oliver, and he wasn't qualified enough. Even if he had qualified, again, there's no guarantee of him being on the final list. The final list was only approved in March 2018.

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Seasidesage said:

My thoughts are that you are right.

One of the irritating things of living in this country to set against all the good stuff is our insistence of a ridiculous interpretation of laws without regard to the practicalities of said rules. No common sense applied, no grey areas, just the letter of the law.

Yesterday, its not a penalty nobody applying any common sense could think that the Palace player was pushed to the ground by that challenge. Friend clearly has seen that, we all did but he's unwilling to overrule his mate. Saturday how is Pickford not sent off? Because no common sense is applied and again VAR is unwilling to overrule the ref,

Where is the clear offside for the winning goal in the merseyside derby? Even if it actually is offside and that is debatable its not a clear error, but they are so concerned by the media they refuse to apply common sense. VAR should be used to eliminate the error not to reinforce the ridiculous and it will not change all the time mates are reviewing each others decisions reinforced by rules that straightjacket the application of common sense and fairness.

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SimpKingpin said:

Definitely agree re. applying "common sense and fairness".

I remember Collina seemed to be a master of this, before VAR.

I'm definitely in the camp that there is a place for VAR. But it's being implemented terribly.

Ever since "little me" had my heart broken by Maradona's "hand of god" I've felt there was a place for some type of video review. Some matches are too important.

It's just bizarre at the moment. The Pickford challenge on VVD going unpunished because it was offside is absolutely bonkers! Common sense, please.

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McTavish said:

Sure, there are no guarantees but Clattenburg would almost definitely have gone if he hadn't left the Premier League. If Clattenburg hadn't been on the list originally then another English referee almost certainly would have been and the decision not to allow Clattenburg to be replaced was due to the fact that the selected group had already undergone training (particularly with VAR) and there was no opportunity for a replacement to catch up.

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McTavish said:

To suggest that the reason that there were no English referees at the World Cup is because none of them were good enough is just not the case.

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SimpKingpin said:

Definitely agree re. applying "common sense and fairness".

I remember Collina seemed to be a master of this, before VAR.

I'm definitely in the camp that there is a place for VAR. But it's being implemented terribly.

Ever since "little me" had my heart broken by Maradona's "hand of god" I've felt there was a place for some type of video review. Some matches are too important.

It's just bizarre at the moment. The Pickford challenge on VVD going unpunished because it was offside is absolutely bonkers! Common sense, please.

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The Large One said:

Only one was qualified, and therefore good enough. And he removed himself from the list 18 months before the tournament.

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