[Football] The Shortest England Careers

Brownstuff · Oct 14, 2020

Some useless trivia I saw in the paper today

Player and minutes played:

Jim Barrett (1928) 4
Peter Ward (1980) 5
Brian Marwood (1988) 10
Chris Sutton (1997) 11
Joey Barton (2007) 11
Lee Hendrie (1998) 14
Ryan Mason (2015) 16
Peter Davenport (1985) 17
Seth Johnson (2000) 17
Brian Little (1975) 19
Steve Perryman (1982) 20
Kevin Hector (1973) 21
Wilfried Zaha (2012-13) 21
Kevin Davies (2010) 21

A couple or more useful players there

hans kraay fan club · Oct 14, 2020

Brownstuff said:
Some useless trivia I saw in the paper today

Player and minutes played:

Jim Barrett (1928) 4
Peter Ward (1980) 5
Brian Marwood (1988) 10
Chris Sutton (1997) 11
Joey Barton (2007) 11
Lee Hendrie (1998) 14
Ryan Mason (2015) 16
Peter Davenport (1985) 17
Seth Johnson (2000) 17
Brian Little (1975) 19
Steve Perryman (1982) 20
Kevin Hector (1973) 21
Wilfried Zaha (2012-13) 21
Kevin Davies (2010) 21

A couple or more useful players there

Did Zaha come on at 5 minutes to midnight, on NYE?

Brownstuff · Oct 14, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Did Zaha come on at 5 minutes to midnight, on NYE?

HaHa
Not sure, i'm guessing he played in a couple or more games totalling 21 minutes during those years.
Not one of England's finest that is for sure

phoenix · Oct 14, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Did Zaha come on at 5 minutes to midnight, on NYE?

Perhaps he had 5 appearances. 1 min in each.

That would explain the 4 injury time penalties we won.

Whoislloydy · Oct 14, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Did Zaha come on at 5 minutes to midnight, on NYE?

He played 5 minutes in a 4:2 away loss to Sweden on November 14th 2012 followed by 15 minutes in a 3:2 home win against Scotland on August 14th 2013 - both friendlies

Beach Hut · Oct 14, 2020

Sadly Carlton Palmer isn't on this list

beorhthelm · Oct 14, 2020

surprised at Hendrie thought he had a couple of games

Weststander · Oct 14, 2020

Whoislloydy said:
He played 5 minutes in a 4:2 away loss to Sweden on November 14th 2012 followed by 15 minutes in a 3:2 home win against Scotland on August 14th 2013 - both friendlies

Then his England career dived.

Lindfield by the Pond · Oct 16, 2020

Sam Allardyce

AmexRuislip · Oct 16, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Did Zaha come on at 5 minutes to midnight, on NYE?

Then got tripped up by the hour hand and rolled around till the NY :shrug:

Swansman · Oct 16, 2020

Its weird Kevin Davies didnt get more opportunities, he was quite good for quite a long time.

AmexRuislip · Oct 16, 2020

Ryan Mason

Dick Knights Mumm · Oct 16, 2020

Did Peter Ward only play 5 minutes? Aye Carumba. For many years I told anyone who’d listen he was destined to be England’s No. 9.;

McTavish · Oct 16, 2020

Dick Knights Mumm said:
Did Peter Ward only play 5 minutes? Aye Carumba. For many years I told anyone who’d listen he was destined to be England’s No. 9.;

Yep, and it was a mickey-mouse game against Australia which few of the "first team" were involved in.

McTavish · Oct 16, 2020

Brownstuff said:
Some useless trivia I saw in the paper today

Player and minutes played:

Jim Barrett (1928) 4
Peter Ward (1980) 5
Brian Marwood (1988) 10
Chris Sutton (1997) 11
Joey Barton (2007) 11
Lee Hendrie (1998) 14
Ryan Mason (2015) 16
Peter Davenport (1985) 17
Seth Johnson (2000) 17
Brian Little (1975) 19
Steve Perryman (1982) 20
Kevin Hector (1973) 21
Wilfried Zaha (2012-13) 21
Kevin Davies (2010) 21

A couple or more useful players there

Apparently Martin Kelly of Crystal Palace fame and Nathan Chalobah played even fewer minutes. According to Wikipedia: "Having played two minutes and thirty-nine seconds, Kelly's international career is the shortest ever for an England player. While Nathaniel Chalobah came on in added time on his 2018 England debut and officially has zero minutes to his career, he played for one second more than Kelly when added time is included."

McTavish · Oct 16, 2020

McTavish said:
Yep, and it was a mickey-mouse game against Australia which few of the "first team" were involved in.

Sorry for quoting myself, but I have just come across this website: http://www.englandfootballonline.com which shows that PW played at least eight minutes and although the team was very much a B team, it was Terry Butcher's first cap, Bryan Robson's second and Glenda's third, so not without talent.

Brownstuff · Oct 16, 2020

McTavish said:
Apparently Martin Kelly of Crystal Palace fame and Nathan Chalobah played even fewer minutes. According to Wikipedia: "Having played two minutes and thirty-nine seconds, Kelly's international career is the shortest ever for an England player. While Nathaniel Chalobah came on in added time on his 2018 England debut and officially has zero minutes to his career, he played for one second more than Kelly when added time is included."

Martin Kelly's England career is strictly not over yet
I am not sure how accurate my list is especially on the minutes side of things
However it is likely to be a list where their England career is definitely over through retirement etc (Zaha is now Ivory Coast)

Thompson720 · Oct 17, 2020

David Nugent springs to mind, 14 u21 apps, 1 senior cap

But what a finish for his goal against Andorra. Clinical.

Murray 17 · Oct 17, 2020

beorhthelm said:
surprised at Hendrie thought he had a couple of games

Well, at least he got to play for the veterans, under Harry Redknapp!

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Arthritic Toe · Oct 17, 2020

Its a bit of a harsh statistic. To even get an international call up puts a player in the very top percentile.

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