[Albion] BIG DAN BURN and a flat back four

Kosh · Oct 3, 2020

Please, please GP PLEASE revert to a system that works...

Ben White was shot today, shot... Rashford destroyed him last week, and he was poor again midweek... he needs resting and protecting.

I want DB back in the team after the break. Sure, he’s not perfect BUT he is being missed. Massively imho.

Ooh this isn’t anti Potter (not really) rant, i’m just expressing an opinion based on the fact that DB impressed me last season... I feel for him being dropped for a player with zero proven PL pedigree.

Perhaps believing the hype was a tad optimistic.

junior · Oct 3, 2020

I concur. Dunk and Webster at CB and Burn at LB please.

Kosh · Oct 3, 2020

junior said:
I concur. Dunk and Webster at CB and Burn at LB please.

Yes, that’ll do... I’d be happy to see Veltman play centrally for Webster too... it’s time to rotate and try for something resembling solidity.

Eeyore · Oct 3, 2020

And to think that last week folk were crowing after match about the wing-back system and the performances.

I wonder who can set the record for changing their mind most in a season ?

The system is fine, excepting that on this occasion it failed. But not because of the system itself but individual error. All Ryan had to do today was pick the ball out the net.

Mainly because Everton scored at every decent opportunity.

Washie · Oct 3, 2020

Kosh said:
Yes, that’ll do... I’d be happy to see Veltman play centrally for Webster too... it’s time to rotate and try for something resembling solidity.

I'd actually say Veltman for Dunk TBH

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saafend_seagull · Oct 3, 2020

4-4-2.

Ryan

Veltman
Dunk
Webster
Burn

Lamptey
Bissouma
Lallana
March

Trossard
Maupay

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Kosh · Oct 3, 2020

Brighton Lines said:
And to think that last week folk were crowing after match about the wing-back system and the performances.

I wonder who can set the record for changing their mind most in a season ?

The system is fine, excepting that on this occasion it failed. But not because of the system itself but individual error. All Ryan had to do today was pick the ball out the net.

Mainly because Everton scored at every decent opportunity.

Personally i’ve been rather cautious re our WB system because if your CMs fail to cover you can be so easily undone... good coaches know this, and today... guess what...?

It can be brilliant, but it has serious weaknesses against very good teams, hence our inability to keep out Chelsea, Man Utd and now a resurgent Everton... today called for a four four two. Solidity without sacrificing too much fluidity.

With confidence possibly now an issue, a call to revert to a more solid looking or dependable shape isn’t too far fetched... surely ?

midnight_rendezvous · Oct 3, 2020

We looked rubbish with a flat back 4 against United in the cup. I’d rather stick with the back 3 personally :shrug:

peterward · Oct 3, 2020

Kosh said:
Please, please GP PLEASE revert to a system that works...
Hi
Ben White was shot today, shot... Rashford destroyed him last week, and he was poor again midweek... he needs resting and protecting.

I want DB back in the team after the break. Sure, he’s not perfect BUT he is being missed. Massively imho.

Ooh this isn’t anti Potter (not really) rant, i’m just expressing an opinion based on the fact that DB impressed me last season... I feel for him being dropped for a player with zero proven PL pedigree.

Perhaps believing the hype was a tad optimistic.

Away at top 6-8, back 4 for sure. Home to WBA Fulham, stick with the 3.

White shouldn't be scapegoated, he's playing at a high level in a new system and new position. Burn is not the answer and was shit midweek.

Kosh · Oct 3, 2020

peterward said:
Away at top 6-8, back 4 for sure. Home to WBA Fulham, stick with the 3.

White shouldn't be scapegoated, he's playing at a high level in a new system. Burn is not the answer and was shit midweek.

I agree re shape, but re DB... he’s awkward in a back three, not a back four... also he might be feeling a bit miffed, I would. I think his performance came about from a lack of game time... he needs to be playing regularly, he’s not an in and out player, he’s a rolls Royce who purrs when run regularly! Lol.

He hasn’t gone from quiet revelation to shit overnight... I have to disagree.

BN41Albion · Oct 3, 2020

Brighton Lines said:
And to think that last week folk were crowing after match about the wing-back system and the performances.

I wonder who can set the record for changing their mind most in a season ?

The system is fine, excepting that on this occasion it failed. But not because of the system itself but individual error. All Ryan had to do today was pick the ball out the net.

Mainly because Everton scored at every decent opportunity.

Seems to have happened in all our games - oppo has scored with most of their shots on target. Frustrating

Neville's Breakfast · Oct 3, 2020

This thread needs a poll.
I am happy with a back 5 but clearly it needs work, particularly when the wing backs are nowhere to be seen when the opposition breaks. Lack of application from the centre backs defending set pieces and crosses won’t be improved by switching to a back 4.

midnight_rendezvous · Oct 3, 2020

Kosh said:
I agree re shape, but re DB... he’s awkward in a back three, not a back four... also he might be feeling a bit miffed, I would. I think his performance came about from a lack of game time... he needs to be playing regularly, he’s not an in and out player, he’s a rolls Royce who purrs when run regularly! Lol.

He hasn’t gone from quiet revelation to shit overnight... I have to disagree.

I have to say I disagree based on the showing against United in the Cup. BDB looked far better in the first half than he did when he played at LB.

peterward · Oct 3, 2020

Neville's Breakfast said:
This thread needs a poll.
I am happy with a back 5 but clearly it needs work, particularly when the wing backs are nowhere to be seen when the opposition breaks. Lack of application from the centre backs defending set pieces and crosses won’t be improved by switching to a back 4.

I'd much rather 451 away at top teams, with some attacking midfielders in there.

343, 352 is just to risky and how many points lost will it take to refine?

Luke93 · Oct 3, 2020

No one was calling for this vs Newcastle and Man United.

Issue today was a lack of control in midfield and poor defending from the CBs. I don’t see how taking 1 away will improve the back line. Issue was how well Everton played playing through and between our midfield and defence.

Kalimantan Gull · Oct 3, 2020

Don't take a step back. Just learn, improve and do what we are doing better.

moggy · Oct 3, 2020

midnight_rendezvous said:
We looked rubbish with a flat back 4 against United in the cup. I’d rather stick with the back 3 personally

Definitely this.
Plus gives us more options when we attack

mothy · Oct 3, 2020

It depends what system we're playing against. Everton had a 3 man midfield today & that was too much for alzate & biss. If we had been flexible & gone 4 4 2 or 4 5 1 then maybe we would have controlled the midfield

GingerBeerMan · Oct 3, 2020

saafend_seagull said:
4-4-2.

Ryan

Veltman
Dunk
Webster
Burn

Lamptey
Bissouma
Lallana
March

Trossard
Maupay

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Brighton will be playing four four BLOODY two.

seagully · Oct 3, 2020

Pretty sure we played with a flat back 4 for the second half today and looked much less threatening. Once Veltman came on, Webster went over to left back with Solly pushing forward into midfield.

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