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[Cricket] Bitter celebration
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Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
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Thread peaked with this post. Bravo sir.
The Fifth Column
Retired ex-cop
Feel free to educate me then. All I've done is post an opinion that I think it is a gross over reaction by the club to what was a perfectly normal celebration that would have sufficed with an apology if the player concerned was upset or offended by it. Instead, in a perfectly modern and woke response the club embark on a diversity training program and posters here can't wait to jump on the 'I'm not a racist and respect other peoples religions and cultures' bandwagon like it somehow scores them some lifestyle brownie points. Like most threads of this nature, if you dare to post any hint of a contrary opinion the standard response is, 'you're a gammon'.
Is gammon?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
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A bit of knowledge, empathy and good will will probably go a lot further than a 'soz, mate'.
Someone ought to tell [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION]
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Personally I couldn't give a damn about offending someones religious beliefs, however forcing someone to take part in a ritual that will offend is a different matter. From what I can see the alcohol was deliberately poured on him and what choice does he have but to laugh it off.
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
Eating meat isn’t the same as having meat touching you, but I doubt there are many vegetarians who’d thank you for hurling raw meat at them.
No, definitely not, but you didn’t answer my question?
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Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
I doubt anybody would like having raw meat hurled at them in all fairness.
As ever the context of any given situation can be far more nuanced than black and white statements can ever be. Not all Muslims abstain from drinking, not all vegetarians refuse to cook meat, not all Palace fans are spotty teenaged thickos... etc, etc.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Well, this makes a change, I wonder which regular from the Bear Pit started this thread ?
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I love threads like this where someone from a culture has said they aren't comfortable with something that has happened and loads of people who aren't part of that culture rock up to tell them they're wrong to think that.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Well, this makes a change, I wonder which regular from the Bear Pitstarted this thread ?
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Watch it, you'll have the animal welfare mob after you sharing disgusting images like that!
schmunk
"Members"
That's correct - they welcome spotty thickos of all ages.
IIRC when England won the World Cup and the champagne came out, Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali socially distanced themselves from the spraying about party. Not sure anybody really noticed or cared tbh. As a minority within the squad they removed themselves from the situation presumably recognising that was the right thing to do rather than spitting the dummy and demanding that the champagne celebration shouldn't have happened.
Of course, non-alcoholic champagne should be used for the celebrations so no players have to remove themselves. Plenty of opportunity to hit the hard stuff back in the dressing room.
In this situation though, deliberately pouring alcohol over the head of a muslim player was daft, irresponsible and disrespectful.
Of course, non-alcoholic champagne should be used for the celebrations so no players have to remove themselves. Plenty of opportunity to hit the hard stuff back in the dressing room.
In this situation though, deliberately pouring alcohol over the head of a muslim player was daft, irresponsible and disrespectful.
If they'd used Fosters it would have been ok I guess, cheaper than AF Champers as well.
ConfusedGloryHunter
He/him/his/that muppet
- Jul 6, 2011
- 2,047
It is obviously one or two extremely excited young men who didn't know or forgot that pouring alcohol on a particular team mate could cause offence. An unfortunate faux pas that, since they are a sports team with an overseas market of many millions of Muslims, needs to be dealt with publicly to pacify the bigots or whatever Muslim versions of Gammons are called. Frankly a quick little diversity talk is far better than online persecution by enraged trolls and is the best thing to protect the careers and mental health of all those involved including the "victim".
Killer Whale
Banned
- Jul 27, 2020
- 213
This is always the great irony of performative wokeness.
Its denizens are desperately anxious to virtue signal their tolerance of other cultures faiths and beliefs, and hatred of bigotry. And the technique they constantly use is to be THEMSELVES unutterably ageist and bigoted towards middle aged and elderly white people.
Look at me, how morally virtuous I am for telling you you aren't entitled to express a differing opinion!
Killer Whale
Banned
- Jul 27, 2020
- 213
Islam is eminently worthy of study, and I must admit I find it very interesting. Especially its early history. The manner in which it replaced Christianity in its heartland of the Middle East is staggering. Both in its speed and permanence, it basically wiped it off the map. There was a reason for this, and it lies in the theology.
It amazes me that most non Muslims know so little about it. But the Muslim population doubled between the 2001 and 2011 censuses. We await the results of the 2021 one, obviously, but every sign is that this exponential growth has been maintained from a much larger base. No-one disputes that it is going to be more and more important in our national life going forward, surely?
The fact that we as a culture we are so terrified of causing offence to it, as this non story shows, is very telling.
Take a look at the demographic projections for this country. Pew have done some good work on it. By 2050 (as far ahead as 1990 is back) the UK will have been transformed. Everyone will be studying Islam soon, I am just ahead of the curve.