Tom Hark Preston Park
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[Football] Big Team Bias
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portslade seagull
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Tiny Wharton must be spinning in his grave
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No way he ran about the pitch. It was hard enough for me
banjo
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Shit happens. On another day 2 or 3 of our chances would have gone in. As we lost I think we needEd to find someone to blame.
Whether we took our chances or not are besides the point.
We’re not discussing blame. Talking about inherent bias in the media (think no one disputes that?) and whether there’s subconscious bias in some officials.
banjo
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Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Connolly’s pen wouldn’t have been overruled if it was Rashford, Hoops would of wound his neck in and said nothing....fact
East London Exile
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I had thought VAR evened things out, but thinking about yesterday’s game (albeit with my blue and white tinted specs on) it makes a great disparity between the result of identical challenges inside and outside the box.
The challenge on Connolly was reviewed and the initial decision overturned and the yellow card for the challenger withdrawn as Connolly “initiated the contact” (whether or not that is a reason within the laws of the game is another debate!). Shaw went down in two challenges where he could have been considered to have initiated the contact and our players received yellow cards. These have not been reviewed and the cards will stand in the totting up for the season which could result in a match ban.
Using VAR to show up the divers is good but not so sure in some of these other situations.
hart's shirt
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As someone who's lived abroad for the last 16 years, it's inevitable from the media to focus on the historically bigger names for the widest appeal.
The EPL is a global product that's consumed in the majority by armchair / sports bar spectators who live thousands of miles away. I'm one.
As for referees and match officials, they're just doing their job, however badly. Bias? No.
'Home' decisions that Liverpool, Man United, etc. were awarded due to crowd pressure isn't there now because of no crowds and VAR overturning.
We'd be best off putting yesterday's freakish set of circumstances behind us, moving on and getting some sort of revenge in the Cup.
The EPL is a global product that's consumed in the majority by armchair / sports bar spectators who live thousands of miles away. I'm one.
As for referees and match officials, they're just doing their job, however badly. Bias? No.
'Home' decisions that Liverpool, Man United, etc. were awarded due to crowd pressure isn't there now because of no crowds and VAR overturning.
We'd be best off putting yesterday's freakish set of circumstances behind us, moving on and getting some sort of revenge in the Cup.
I keep thinking the thread title is:-
Big Team Biss
'Yeah fair enough'.
Big Team Biss
'Yeah fair enough'.
Perhaps there are two biases at play.
Home crowd pressure and exaggeration of incidents - temporarily eliminated.
The intimidation from some big club players/coaches in incidents - e.g. Fergie was a bully and quite deliberately orchestrated mass intimidation of refs at vital debatable incidents, Mourinho and his Chelsea players were cut of the same cloth.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Seems to me that refs are less inclined to award pens to players who are appealing for one before they've even hit the deck, like Connolly yesterday
Justice
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He did award it
Although last season at Palace we didn’t make a fuss and got nothing.
Who's the big side, Spuds or Newcastle?
According to the space cadet tin hatters, it must be the Toon given today's pen
According to the space cadet tin hatters, it must be the Toon given today's pen
Indeed. Spurs are a Big Club.
Or are they?
I agree the media is only interested in top 6 plus The Leeds, with reason, same as it ever was but I don't think this carries over in a meaningful way to the referees. It's very easy to see patterns that don't exist.
Just listening to Maureen on the radio. He's happy.
There's a lot of truth in that. With the Ref and VAR we had yesterday, you just knew it would be poor.
Thunder Bolt
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Indeed. Spurs are a Big Club.
Or are they?
I agree the media is only interested in top 6 plus The Leeds, with reason, same as it ever was but I don't think this carries over in a meaningful way to the referees. It's very easy to see patterns that don't exist.
Just listening to Maureen on the radio. He's happy.
I’ve just mentioned M Dean on another thread, who was seen celebrating a Spurs goal. Bizarre especially as he’s a Tranmere fan.
Thunder Bolt
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Watch it again. Connolly didn’t appeal it.
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