[News] NHS CV19 tracing app.

Bozza said:

As already posted, there will be a whole heap of people who are undoubtedly going to be involved in some sort of mutual wankathon to celebrate how clever they've been in leaving a bad review as soon as the app dropped.

You know when Albion are going through bad times, or losing, there's that small group of people who seem to take delight in that misery, just waiting for another defeat so they can jump on here, or on twitter, to revel in an unfortunate event?

Is strikes me that there's a similar group of people who can't wait for any government mis-step on Covid-19, so they can stick the boot in. That real or perceived government failings are bad for all of us, almost seems secondary, such is their glee to jump on it.

It's an app that uses independently-provided technology from two of the world's leading technology companies, the same tech deployed by other countries in similar apps.

If I install it, there's a chance I could save someone's life.

If I don't install it, there's a chance I might not save someone's life.

I don't find the choice a difficult one to make.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. Those who won't install it, were never going to do so and won't be persuaded by me or by anyone else.. As Starsailor once sang:

Thank goodness for the good souls
That make life better.

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Bozza said:

As already posted, there will be a whole heap of people who are undoubtedly going to be involved in some sort of mutual wankathon to celebrate how clever they've been in leaving a bad review as soon as the app dropped.

You know when Albion are going through bad times, or losing, there's that small group of people who seem to take delight in that misery, just waiting for another defeat so they can jump on here, or on twitter, to revel in an unfortunate event?

Is strikes me that there's a similar group of people who can't wait for any government mis-step on Covid-19, so they can stick the boot in. That real or perceived government failings are bad for all of us, almost seems secondary, such is their glee to jump on it.

It's an app that uses independently-provided technology from two of the world's leading technology companies, the same tech deployed by other countries in similar apps.

If I install it, there's a chance I could save someone's life.

If I don't install it, there's a chance I might not save someone's life.

I don't find the choice a difficult one to make.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. Those who won't install it, were never going to do so and won't be persuaded by me or by anyone else.. As Starsailor once sang:

Thank goodness for the good souls
That make life better.

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Bozza said:

As already posted, there will be a whole heap of people who are undoubtedly going to be involved in some sort of mutual wankathon to celebrate how clever they've been in leaving a bad review as soon as the app dropped.

You know when Albion are going through bad times, or losing, there's that small group of people who seem to take delight in that misery, just waiting for another defeat so they can jump on here, or on twitter, to revel in an unfortunate event?

Is strikes me that there's a similar group of people who can't wait for any government mis-step on Covid-19, so they can stick the boot in. That real or perceived government failings are bad for all of us, almost seems secondary, such is their glee to jump on it.

It's an app that uses independently-provided technology from two of the world's leading technology companies, the same tech deployed by other countries in similar apps.

If I install it, there's a chance I could save someone's life.

If I don't install it, there's a chance I might not save someone's life.

I don't find the choice a difficult one to make.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. Those who won't install it, were never going to do so and won't be persuaded by me or by anyone else.. As Starsailor once sang:

Thank goodness for the good souls
That make life better.

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Brok said:

It's not very popular at the moment, with a rating of 1.6 out of 5.

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Albion Dan said:

This scenario could easily unfold again at some point in the future (if it’s not already in motion now) and a huge amount of our society would blindly fall into line and follow the ‘rules’. Even here you can see anyone who’s not prepared to just accept what they’re told is true by the powers that be are labelled a ‘nut job’ or other snide weak comments.

It seems we have learnt nothing from the past

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nicko31 said:

So is this based on the shelf google/apple API?

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I will overlook your snide final sentence and expand on my personal situation. I have the German one installed, have done for a long time now. But, I have huge reservations about the privacy and integrity of my data in the hands of this Cummins led Government, I don’t trust him, or them, one inch. For that reason I’m out. I am only in the UK for short periods, a few days, and know all of my movements as my days are planned....so I’ll do the sensible thing and notify the contact tracing people should I discover I’m positive when I get my post U.K. test done.

I think this will probably be as good, most likely better, than the app.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

It also seems a lot of emphasis is being placed on the UK app, which possibly fires up certain types and turns it into a frenzied but simple binary argument. This has been the way for a few years now with many topics; us vs them.

In Germany, it’s just another part of the armoury which compliments all the other means being used to track, trace and contact. Robert Koch and Oxford Uni did some analyse and deemed, in the German context...from memory, only 15% of the population need to down load it for it to be useful. There’s genuine reasons why people can’t, or won’t, download the app, but they’re respected; possibly because there’s not as much emphasis placed on the app as there is in the U.K.

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LamieRobertson said:

Sigh ...

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Bozza said:

Our posts crossed - mine wasn't directed at anyone in particular. However I'm as happy with my position as I'm sure you are with your own.

No your approach won't be as good as the app's:

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Under your approach any and all casual contacts you may have, those hard to trace using manual T&T efforts, would not be notified of your infection.

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Perfidious Albion said:

My phone is too old to take it ,according to what I have read. I am on Android 4.4 and the phone says no updates are available. I suspect a lot of the most vulnerable people will be in the same position. Old people don’t like changing stuff that still works well.

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WATFORD zero said:

Whatever you think of the Government why would you not download this app that now uses the same standard protocols as track and trace in other countries ? Because, which no matter how limited it is, or whatever teething problems there are, it's only going to help the safety of yourself and other people during the pandemic.

And for people who were worried about Cumming's influence, the Government have U-turned from Cummings mate's 'software house's central system' and are using a standard track and trace distributed architecture. Better late than never, but no reason not to download it.



Sorry, if I misunderstood Lamie, but what was wrong with saying that 'If you can't wear a mask or similar, then wear a plastic face shield ?'

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Herr Tubthumper said:

Maybe they do, but I prefer to not package all my movements up into a nice one-stop-shop of an app. At least GCHQ have to work a little bit to find out my movements and check a few of my apps

All things considered, I’m comfortable with my approach.

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Tom Hark said:

This

Internet: Old TV caused village broadband outages for 18 months

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54239180

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Normal Rob said:

Ok - I'm not knocking the app or anything like that, I'm just confused by it.

For starters - I've downloaded the app and activated it.

If I get a notification saying that I need to self isolate for 14 days because I may have been in a place (cafe/tesco etc) when someone who has tested positive was also there, does that mean that I have to self-isolate, plus my family - meaning my 3 kids could not go to school, nor could my wife, a secondary school teacher who are already massively short staffed due to this covid-enforced absences, due to the slim possibility that I may have come into close contact with them or something they touched, even if I or my family have no symptoms?

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studio150 said:

So 1 in 3 false positives on the app, and Johnson has confirmed that if you get a notiffication via the app, there is no legal requirement to self isolate, and no fines are applicable. You must only self isolate when contacted by the track and trace team.

So more money well spent by the Government.

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Normal Rob said:

Ok - I'm not knocking the app or anything like that, I'm just confused by it.

For starters - I've downloaded the app and activated it.

If I get a notification saying that I need to self isolate for 14 days because I may have been in a place (cafe/tesco etc) when someone who has tested positive was also there, does that mean that I have to self-isolate, plus my family - meaning my 3 kids could not go to school, nor could my wife, a secondary school teacher who are already massively short staffed due to this covid-enforced absences, due to the slim possibility that I may have come into close contact with them or something they touched, even if I or my family have no symptoms?

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