[Film] White Riot

oneillco · Sep 18, 2020

I wonder if anyone else remembers this 1979 incident at Selhurts Park? About 40 mins before KO there is about 2,000 Brighton gathered at the top of the White Horse terrace. The ground is less than half full so there is plenty of room to move about when in comes a long line of 20-30 stereotypical skinheads in skinny bleached jeans, flight jackets and boots. At the time there were no skinheads in Brighton so they were immediately clocked as Palace and in one great swoop about 200 Brighton came pouring down the terrace and chased them over the barrier onto the pitch with punches flying and boots up the 4rse. I remember one of them tumbling over the fence backwards with his size 10 DMs up in the air. Oh what a happy sight...

The Clamp · Sep 18, 2020

Remember seeing Henry Rollins (when he was in-between Black Flag and Rollins Band) get off stage and dole out quite a few slaps to nazi skinheads for hitting women and proper punks when I saw his band a few times.

pearl · Sep 18, 2020

Peteinblack said:
I was there

I was there too, but tbh I don't remember much :down:

maybe the film will jog my memory!

boik · Sep 18, 2020

Tom Hark said:
... especially while wearing a mauve roll-neck sweater type thing

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I think you'll find that that's lilac, actually.

attila · Sep 18, 2020

I saw the premiere. It's brilliant.

Deleted member 2719 · Sep 18, 2020

pearl said:
https://youtu.be/hH0ahLKrd6o

This is the only Specials record I have ever skipped when playing them, as she is truly awful, what were they doing to let her wreck their album

Harry Wilson's tackle · Sep 18, 2020

oneillco said:
I was there and they felt like crucial times. Last weekend in Brighton there were loads of geriatric Skinheads in town for their "Brighton Great Skinhead Reunion" and it made me sick. Nostalgia for being a bunch of ignorant ******** in the 70s/80s, and judging by the cross of St.George badges and facial tattoos they remain a bunch of ignorant ******** now.

Das Reich will be along in a minute to call you clueless.

Although, I think he's too young to know about this stuff. Unless it was the spoof account, I recall him mentioning going to a Simple Minds gig in the early 80s. That is borderline smoking Consulate, and incompatible with a self-declared skin head past. :shrug:

Back to the original post, did I ever mention I got my original 'Clash' album singed by Joe Strummer? I think I probably did :lolol:

daveinplzen · Sep 18, 2020

oneillco said:
I was there and they felt like crucial times. Last weekend in Brighton there were loads of geriatric Skinheads in town for their "Brighton Great Skinhead Reunion" and it made me sick. Nostalgia for being a bunch of ignorant ******** in the 70s/80s, and judging by the cross of St.George badges and facial tattoos they remain a bunch of ignorant ******** now.

Fascist skins are also a bit dim wearing a dress code deriving from 'Rudeboys'.

Was in London one time at some anti fascist thing.,when Red action rocked up, and the police put them in with the fascists, not understanding their intent. Funny as hell.
Clash seemed to make reggae popular among punks I'm guessing, both musical genres being mostly anti establishment

WATFORD zero · Sep 18, 2020

Tom Hark said:
Same

A great day out :clap:

Harry Wilson's tackle · Sep 18, 2020

daveinplzen said:
Fascist skins are also a bit dim wearing a dress code deriving from 'Rudeboys'.

Was in London one time at some anti fascist thing.,when Red action rocked up, and the police put them in with the fascists, not understanding their intent. Funny as hell.
Clash seemed to make reggae popular among punks I'm guessing, both musical genres being mostly anti establishment

OK, you're a reggae man, and a bit older than me. Here's how it went for the punk generation.

Don Letts. Acme Attractions (King's Road). He ran it and played records. All the punk glitterati like Rotten, Siouxie, etc., hanged out there.
John Peel. Played dub reggae from around 74/75. Rebel music and the dub appealed to former psychedelic fans, seeking The New Sound.
Then 1976 and the punk explosion. Any punk club or gig played reggae. Most famously the 100 club (where The Pistols played an early gig, and Sid disgraced himself - another story).
Reggae bands often supported punk bands live. The number of times I saw Steele Pulse live is beyond calculation (aka I can't remember)
For a time me and my pals listened only to punk and reggae. Everything else was for old people. Well, apart from Beefhart, Zappa, Peter Hammill, MX80 (Sound), Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, Patti Smith, James Brown, Ivor Cutler, Viv Stanshall, er, ok, Springsteen. I'll get my coat.

oneillco · Sep 18, 2020

daveinplzen said:
Fascist skins are also a bit dim wearing a dress code deriving from 'Rudeboys'.

Was in London one time at some anti fascist thing.,when Red action rocked up, and the police put them in with the fascists, not understanding their intent. Funny as hell.
Clash seemed to make reggae popular among punks I'm guessing, both musical genres being mostly anti establishment

No it wasn't the Clash that popularised reggae with punks; in the early punk days (76 - 77) we had no records to play in between bands on stage, and heavy dub reggae was the only sounds out there that wasn't the usual disco pap or prog rock/hippy cr4p we were trying to get away from.

Screaming J · Sep 19, 2020

Peteinblack said:
I was there

Ditto

Screaming J · Sep 19, 2020

oneillco said:
No it wasn't the Clash that popularised reggae with punks; in the early punk days (76 - 77) we had no records to play in between bands on stage, and heavy dub reggae was the only sounds out there that wasn't the usual disco pap or prog rock/hippy cr4p we were trying to get away from.

I was well into punk at the time but never understood the revulsion for soul/disco except for the fact that most of the choons were considerably longer than 3 mins and were completely different stylistically (*).

And where you consider where soul/disco originated from....

(*pun intended)

sydney · Sep 19, 2020

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
OK, you're a reggae man, and a bit older than me. Here's how it went for the punk generation.

Don Letts. Acme Attractions (King's Road). He ran it and played records. All the punk glitterati like Rotten, Siouxie, etc., hanged out there.

John Peel. Played dub reggae from around 74/75. Rebel music and the dub appealed to former psychedelic fans, seeking The New Sound.

Then 1976 and the punk explosion. Any punk club or gig played reggae. Most famously the 100 club (where The Pistols played an early gig, and Sid disgraced himself - another story).

Reggae bands often supported punk bands live. The number of times I saw Steele Pulse live is beyond calculation (aka I can't remember)

For a time me and my pals listened only to punk and reggae. Everything else was for old people. Well, apart from Beefhart, Zappa, Peter Hammill, MX80 (Sound), Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, Patti Smith, James Brown, Ivor Cutler, Viv Stanshall, er, ok, Springsteen. I'll get my coat.

steel pulse were brilliant......a big fave at the time , only saw them 4 times .

Pretty pink fairy · Sep 19, 2020

Strength thru Oi
Regards
DF

Pretty pink fairy · Sep 19, 2020

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Das Reich will be along in a minute to call you clueless.

Although, I think he's too young to know about this stuff. Unless it was the spoof account, I recall him mentioning going to a Simple Minds gig in the early 80s. That is borderline smoking Consulate, and incompatible with a self-declared skin head past.

Back to the original post, did I ever mention I got my original 'Clash' album singed by Joe Strummer? I think I probably did

Simple minds early 80's H

See them live at Wembley stadium in 89

Regards
DF

Deportivo Seagull · Sep 19, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
Simple minds early 80's H See them live at Wembley stadium in 89
Regards
DF

Simple minds ... really I thought you’d be bouncing around to Screwdriver or some such bunch of twats.

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carlzeiss · Sep 19, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
Strength thru Oi
Regards
DF

Loved this track & still sounds fresh & relevant nearly 40 years on :rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngN0KcB8JaM

Pretty pink fairy · Sep 20, 2020

carlzeiss said:
Loved this track & still sounds fresh & relevant nearly 40 years on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngN0KcB8JaM

Halcyon days :cheers:

Regards
DF

Pretty pink fairy · Sep 20, 2020

Deportivo Seagull said:
Simple minds ... really I thought you’d be bouncing around to Screwdriver or some such bunch of twats.

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Who said I wasn't?
Regards
DF

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